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Jan 31 2023 02:49pm
im weary.

lets see whats new, oh ok, from the bbc:

US President Joe Biden has ruled out providing F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, despite renewed calls from top Kyiv officials for urgent air support. Asked on Monday if the US would be sending the planes, Mr Biden said "no". The UK also said it was "not practical" for it to send its aircraft to Ukraine. Meanwhile, France's Emmanuel Macon said "by definition, nothing is excluded" ahead of meeting a Ukrainian minister. Ukraine says advanced jets will help protect its skies from Russian attacks. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and the country's top military officials say there should be no taboos on such military aid - but the US and its partners fear this would lead to further escalation with a nuclear-armed Russia.

On Tuesday, Ukraine's Air Force spokesman Yuriy Ihnat was quoted by the Ukrainska Pravda news website as saying that Kyiv needed up to 200 multi-role fighter jets - such as F-16s - to defend its skies. He said that Russia currently outnumbered Ukraine by five to six times in terms of the number of war planes. The US-made F-16s would be a significant upgrade on the Soviet-era fighting jets - mostly MiGs - Ukraine is currently using, which were made before the country declared independence from the USSR in 1991. However, Mr Biden has repeatedly rebuffed Ukraine's pleas for the jets, instead focussing on providing military support in other areas.

Other Western allies have been been less definitive though. On Monday, President Macon did not rule out sending its war planes to Ukraine - but he stressed that it must neither further inflame the situation nor limit France's ability to defend itself. Ukrainian Defence Minister Oleksii Reznikov is now in Paris, where he is expected to discuss the issue with Mr Macron and French military officials later on Tuesday.

Poland - another key ally of Ukraine - has also not ruled out sending F-16s to Kyiv. However, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said any such move would only be possible "in complete co-ordination" with other Nato members.

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i feel like poland is the naught kid in class ever pushing the envelope and that at lunch time several of girls have to sit on him and stuff socks in his mouth to stop him from saying or doing something stupid.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 31 2023 02:50pm
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Jan 31 2023 02:54pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jan 31 2023 02:40pm)
Because I say that NATO membership for Ukraine was dumb and that the West should've negotiated?

So Western leaders that negotiated with the Soviets in the past were Russian agent adjacent?

LMAO


...because you advocate leaving them hanging in the wind to their fate.
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Jan 31 2023 02:59pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 31 2023 09:48pm)
Even the pro-Russian bots are NATO'S fault :rofl:

Pack up reality boys, we are going full retard.


No one said that.

YOU are going full retard but that's nothing new, lol
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Jan 31 2023 03:01pm
Quote (ferdia @ 31 Jan 2023 21:49)
i feel like poland is the naught kid in class ever pushing the envelope and that at lunch time several of girls have to sit on him and stuff socks in his mouth to stop him from saying or doing something stupid.


The closer you are to the problem, the bigger is the worry...
Also: Poland have same aircrafts, tanks, that Ukraine already have. Meaning there's much less training needed.
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Jan 31 2023 03:03pm
Stubbed my toe, NATOS fault. How dare they peacefully expand to my dining room.

This totally justifies my illegal invasion
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Jan 31 2023 03:06pm
Europe donates money to Ukraine to help them.
Ukraine spends money of European tax payers donated by EU, to buy weapons from USA.
USA takes money from scrap they delivered to eastern europe, and builds new weapons for their own military use for their terroristic missions in future.
Once Germany had doubts about sending tanks instead money, Americans were about to burn their chancellor alive.


Good to see that European tax payers are funding the war which profits United States.
Good to see that same United States blew up Nord Stream to force stop trade between Europe and Russia, and put themselves out there as a supplier for Europe.
Glad I'm paying taxes to support war between 2 dogshit countries no1 gives 2 flying fucks about, just so I could in return pay 5 times my bills compared to last year.


Price is lower than it was before the war started. Prices for consumers are still 4-5 times higher than same period last year.





Diesel price before war: €1.05/l
Diesel price today: €1.75/l7




This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Jan 31 2023 03:07pm
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Jan 31 2023 03:08pm
Quote (Santara @ Jan 31 2023 09:54pm)
...because you advocate leaving them hanging in the wind to their fate.


If I were the one to take the decisions then Ukraine would never been promised NATO or EU member ship cuz it's predictable what will happen.

What's next btw, NATO membership for Taiwan cuz China bad and Xi kleptocrat etc etc etc?

Wouldn't surprise me cuz Western "progressives" completely lost the plot.
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Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 1 Feb 2023 05:06)
Europe donates money to Ukraine to help them.
Ukraine spends money of European tax payers donated by EU, to buy weapons from USA.
USA takes money from scrap they delivered to eastern europe, and builds new weapons for their own military use for their terroristic missions in future.
Once Germany had doubts about sending tanks instead money, Americans were about to burn their chancellor alive.


Good to see that European tax payers are funding the war which profits United States.
Good to see that same United States blew up Nord Stream to force stop trade between Europe and Russia, and put themselves out there as a supplier for Europe.
Glad I'm paying taxes to support war between 2 dogshit countries no1 gives 2 flying fucks about, just so I could in return pay 5 times my bills compared to last year.


Price is lower than it was before the war started. Prices for consumers are still 4-5 times higher than same period last year.

https://i.postimg.cc/T3rRVDdN/g1.png



Diesel price before war: €1.05/l
Diesel price today: €1.75/l7


https://i.postimg.cc/DzT16LqS/h2.png


You didn't mention US Raised her interest rates and now jobs and companies and factories are moving to the USA because the energy supply is a lot more stable as well.
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Jan 31 2023 03:16pm
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 31 Jan 2023 22:06)
Europe donates money to Ukraine to help them.
Ukraine spends money of European tax payers donated by EU, to buy weapons from USA.
USA takes money from scrap they delivered to eastern europe, and builds new weapons for their own military use for their terroristic missions in future.
Once Germany had doubts about sending tanks instead money, Americans were about to burn their chancellor alive.


Good to see that European tax payers are funding the war which profits United States.
Good to see that same United States blew up Nord Stream to force stop trade between Europe and Russia, and put themselves out there as a supplier for Europe.
Glad I'm paying taxes to support war between 2 dogshit countries no1 gives 2 flying fucks about, just so I could in return pay 5 times my bills compared to last year.


Price is lower than it was before the war started. Prices for consumers are still 4-5 times higher than same period last year.

https://i.postimg.cc/T3rRVDdN/g1.png



Diesel price before war: €1.05/l
Diesel price today: €1.75/l7


https://i.postimg.cc/DzT16LqS/h2.png



Residentials are buying gas stocked this winter at high price. have to wait before prices go down.
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Jan 31 2023 03:29pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 31 2023 10:16pm)
Residentials are buying gas stocked this winter at high price. have to wait before prices go down.


LNG can never be as cheap as gas delivered via pipeline, keep dreaming.

You never gonna get that cheap Russian gas again, shot yourself in the foot right there.

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