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Jan 30 2023 01:26pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 30 2023 08:24pm)
Kyrgyz Workers With Russian Citizenship Prevented From Leaving Russia, Urged To Fight In Ukraine
https://www.rferl.org/a/kyrgyz-workers-russian-citizenship-fight-ukraine/32233764.html

"Russian border guards explained to me quite politely that 'you are included in a mobilization list, this is the law, and you have no right to go abroad"
Thus the guy got the nationality (So i assume he has 2) few years ago. He's in his 50's

550,000 people from Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan have obtained Russian passports in the past five years.


rats always leaving boat first.
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Jan 30 2023 01:27pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 30 2023 06:56pm)
Also, he was saying this with regard to a girl who is 20 years old, lol. No idea why his comment was deemed ban-worthy by the mods...


I'm sure you remember what was said in the Andrew Tate topic, just imagine fragile snowflakes reporting every other post cuz they don't agree with someone else's viewpoint in PARD.

Pathetic

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Jan 30 2023 01:28pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 30 2023 07:24pm)
Kyrgyz Workers With Russian Citizenship Prevented From Leaving Russia, Urged To Fight In Ukraine
https://www.rferl.org/a/kyrgyz-workers-russian-citizenship-fight-ukraine/32233764.html

"Russian border guards explained to me quite politely that 'you are included in a mobilization list, this is the law, and you have no right to go abroad"
Thus the guy got the nationality (So i assume he has 2) few years ago. He's in his 50's

550,000 people from Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan have obtained Russian passports in the past five years.


Perfect double ethnic genocide. Send your own ethnic minorities to their death fighting ethnic Ukrainians.

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Jan 30 2023 01:38pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 30 Jan 2023 20:28)
Perfect double ethnic genocide. Send your own ethnic minorities to their death fighting ethnic Ukrainians.


Not that much different than Wagner's methods with the prisoners.
Good guy in his 50's, they put plastic helmet on his head and jacket made in china, meat for the frontlines. Really fucking sick, same mentality than 17-18th century in Russian empire when most of the population was in half-slavery (some kind of advanced serfdom).

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jan 30 2023 01:47pm
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Jan 30 2023 09:21pm
I'm really confused why the US is going around to pretty much the whole globe trying to collect weapons for Ukraine. You would think we would have more than enough to give.

South America, Israel, South Korea and many others.

It's either one of the two things.

1. It's a litmus test to 'prove' you're team west.
2. NATO countries are really being drained empty of armaments and at this point outside of supplying high end things, we have to crowd-source a lot of things for Ukraine
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Jan 30 2023 10:02pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 30 2023 11:21pm)
I'm really confused why the US is going around to pretty much the whole globe trying to collect weapons for Ukraine. You would think we would have more than enough to give.

South America, Israel, South Korea and many others.

It's either one of the two things.

1. It's a litmus test to 'prove' you're team west.
2. NATO countries are really being drained empty of armaments and at this point outside of supplying high end things, we have to crowd-source a lot of things for Ukraine


I think generally it's better to spend other peoples money/weapons if you can, the US could probably send everything Ukraine needs, but if they are looking at a conflict with China in the near future, which might include proxy war scenarios than I think it's smart of them to not be too quick to send the whole armory. Also, when the China situation pops off I think the international community will be less united in opposition than they are to Russia, so the US may have less foreign aid to count on.

Another aspect might be that a lot of what is being sent to Ukraine is destined to be replaced at some point, could be that those replacements will be coming from US defense companies or arms deals of some sort. No source, just spit balling.

The crowdsourcing angle makes sense IMO, especially if you consider some of the logistical hurdles facing Ukraine with the mix of western/Soviet arms they have received.

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Jan 30 2023 10:04pm
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Jan 31 2023 02:21am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 31 2023 04:21am)
I'm really confused why the US is going around to pretty much the whole globe trying to collect weapons for Ukraine. You would think we would have more than enough to give.

South America, Israel, South Korea and many others.

It's either one of the two things.

1. It's a litmus test to 'prove' you're team west.
2. NATO countries are really being drained empty of armaments and at this point outside of supplying high end things, we have to crowd-source a lot of things for Ukraine


Allegedly Russia is "running out of ammunitions" but in reality completely overwhelm the Ukrainians in terms of firepower.

In an effort to keep up with the Russians the Ukrainian army is burning through 1) their own and 2) NATO stockpiles.

The US wouldn't be shipping 155 mm shells from Israel if there were enough available to send to Ukraine.
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Jan 31 2023 02:23am
from Israhell lol

a country to keep in mind when the dollar hegemony will fall
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Jan 31 2023 06:12am
You ask for more ammunition when there isn't enough for whatever reasons. Seems like Ukraine is on the verge of being overwhelmed in the next 1-2 months. Usually, you make preparations beforehand, so I don't think Ukraine is in real trouble now but in near future if the allies fail to supply them with adequate means to defend.
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