Quote (InsaneBobb @ Dec 20 2020 08:29pm)

There's no dodge, merely your complete inability to accept an answer you do not like. The line is the law and whatever rules the private property owner establishes. If you violate the rights of the property owner, you're in the wrong. It's not about being an "order follower". It's completely about "You have no right to someone else's property beyond what they, and the law, allows."

Grow up and accept that you don't always get answers you like, kiddo.

Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 21 2020 12:33am)

like i said. your ok to have people barred at a whim.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Dec 20 2020 08:21pm)

No, it applies to everything. "Basic necessities" as you call them all require the labor and investment of private people. You do not have the "right" to another person's milk. You did not purchase the cow, you do not feed the cow, care for the cow, or milk the cow. You have not paid for the right to that milk until you actually pay for the milk. Grocery stores trespass people off their properties all the time for everything from theft to loitering and panhandling to harassing other customers or employees. You have no "right" to enter private property, regardless of the type of good.



You brought it up, though indirectly. The only example in recent history of people simply blocking people from their businesses willy nilly had to do with racial segregation. And that's now 100% illegal.



It's private property. The limit is whatever the property owner says it is, and the law.



The line is drawn at the law. You have no right to enter private property beyond what the law and the private property owner allows. The private business owner doesn't even have to open their business. Your ability to utilize their business exist entirely on their whim, always.

Once again, to claim you have "principles" because you want to force people to do or not do things on their own private property is completely assinine. It's their property. If you wish to utilize it, it's your obligation to follow their rules. If their rules are complete shit, then people will stop doing business with that business, and they will go out of business. It's as simple as that.

Quote (SuperSpreader @ Dec 20 2020 08:47pm)

i believe that the first steps should be helping the weak and the poor and giving idiots a leg up on life so that they may contribute like the rest of us

Quote (TiStuff @ 20 Dec 2020 20:32)

masks are bad for you make it harder to breath Masks cause people to re breath their own waste product And the worst part, masks are a breeding ground for germs. A nice moist shaded environment is the best conditions for germs. Every time a mask is adjusted or moved for lets say a drink of water more and more germs are transmitted to the mask or going to the bathroom and wiping them self and touching the mask. soon making it a cesspool of germs.


And thats what I have to look at. People all face wrapped up carrying around their own little biological culture of germs. People constantly breathing on their little babies to keep them a nice moist environment.
thats what I see when some one has a mask on, a petri dish right at their mouths and its gross. Its unsanitary,
a toilet attached to their face.

A lie worn on the face, actually wearing shit on the face. Its a line I cant step over its the difference between some and others. perhaps it only the order folllower that go into the "brave" new world...................................with lies and shit on their faces

Quote (TiStuff @ 20 Dec 2020 20:42)

BTW masks are not store policy they are mandates by a despot psychopathic governor and enforced by an order following health department bringing fear to said stores. The very same governor that is losing every time he goes to court but just cant stop blabbering

I dont mask when I have to grocery shop. I am determined to not participate int the nasty lie.

Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 21 2020 12:54am)

to bad leftie agenda is to burn it ll down and have a age of poverty famine and disease.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Dec 21 2020 12:55am)

I do not disagree with what you're saying about concerns over masks. I do not disagree that mask "mandates" are complete and utter shit. I will point out however, there are many businesses that have put out the business policy even in areas with no mandates that you must mask up to enter their business. That's a business policy, and it's well within their rights. Your option is to follow their rules, or cater to a different business.

Regarding stores that are only abiding by "madates" such as say... Walmart? It says right at the door that mandate requires you wear a mask, but if you have a disability or respiratory illness that prevents mask, they cannot require you to wear a mask, and the law prohibits them from requiring you to divulge your health issues. AKA don't wear a mask, claim it's due to a health issue, you're fine. Granted, you may end up with a random Karen screaming at you, but hey, if that's how you want to roll, that's the risk you're going to take.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Dec 20 2020 08:55pm)

I do not disagree with what you're saying about concerns over masks. I do not disagree that mask "mandates" are complete and utter shit. I will point out however, there are many businesses that have put out the business policy even in areas with no mandates that you must mask up to enter their business. That's a business policy, and it's well within their rights. Your option is to follow their rules, or cater to a different business.

Regarding stores that are only abiding by "madates" such as say... Walmart? It says right at the door that mandate requires you wear a mask, but if you have a disability or respiratory illness that prevents mask, they cannot require you to wear a mask, and the law prohibits them from requiring you to divulge your health issues. AKA don't wear a mask, claim it's due to a health issue, you're fine. Granted, you may end up with a random Karen screaming at you, but hey, if that's how you want to roll, that's the risk you're going to take.