And that's where I disagree. He'll lose just as many low-motivation voters who say "he's got no chance anymore, I dont need to vote". You're still stuck in a perspective which was correct from 2000 until 2014, but not anymore: that almost all marginal voters are Democrat-leaning while pretty much the entire GOP electorate consists of reliable, high-turnout folks. But since the great Trump voter swap, the GOP base contains a lot of disengaged, low education, low turnout voters; while quite a lot of the reliable college-educated, politically engaged voters have switched to the Democrats. The degree to which low turnout benefits Republicans has been diminished in the era of Trump.

10/13 update:

Biden -185
trump +150

i disagree entirely, Trump's base is a cult of personality, Biden's base is not even for Biden as much as anti-Trump. there were far more people relieved to see a moderate nominated than excited it was Joe. there's far more fervor in the Trump base to save a sinking ship imo. beyond that its about logistics, trump's support is in rural areas where polling places are not busy. my polling place always takes my vote in under 5 minutes, 1 minute check in, no line, few minutes to fill out my ballot, no line at the ballot machine. in and out. putting them together you have an enthusiastic rural high voting base wanting to save trump and a lower turnout urban base not excited about voting who are also addicted to outrage and will cry if trump wins but smile at the thought of 4 more years of easy twitter posts. trumps base will by contrast truly be heartbroken if he loses.

we will see, we're close enough now to voting day that im going to refrain from hammering the "Trump will win again" drums, ive done it enough. its mostly based on my perception given where i am at anyways, i just think u can tell a lot about the body by just listening to the heart.

At the end of the day, there just aren't enough rural/exurban people to swing this election. They can be as excited as they want but Trump lost once he lost suburban households. The fact that Boomers are more likely to vote for Biden than Trump is also a terrible omen. I think people in your area are in for a very rude awakening and my biggest fear is that they don't accept the results and further isolate themselves.

its very possible, i'd love to be wrong and watch the idiots calling HRC voters election deniers turn 180 and become their worst enemies. pendulum swings on criticism have a short halflife these days, and nothing gets me more in a chuckle fit than rank hypocrisy.

so many of these peoples' lives peaked when trump won and started owning the libs
what will they do with themselves if he loses?
i can only think spaz out and start shooting

My guess is probably go on living drinking beer, watching football and fox, etc.

Would put good money that it's not going to be the leftist type of temper tantrums we've seen the last few years both in the media/hollywood as well as in the streets of leftist strongholds.

Even if they did, you wouldn't notice it because they don't live in densely populated areas. We can't hear you screaming if no one is listening. I have to imagine that some small group will become incredibly radical but as long as the FBI does their job, we'll all be fine.

Most Trump supporters I know are basically blue collar type white people. Its the white guy waking up at 6 am to go to his concrete laying or roofing job working for 12 hours then coming home and drinking beer only to do it all again until Friday. Saturday he'll go hunting, fishing, 4-wheeling, watch some football and clog up some arteries, etc.

Like this persona doesn't strike me as the type of person to do anything meaningful to threaten that existence. He's not going to quit his job and go to the capital of the state because he has a mortgage and probably paying alimony and child support to his ex if he doesn't already have a family at home.

Of course you have the crazies but tbh outside national headlines I personally have not seen anyone around me radical enough to do anything.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Oct 13 2020 01:47pm

i think you're right for some, but for the guys with a trump flag, 2 trump signs in their yard, 2 trump bumper stickers, and a banner painted on their garage? idk

the part that scares me is when i asked "what will they do" i dont have any clue.