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May 28 2020 08:53am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 28 2020 07:46am)
people dont want ex cons taking fast food orders, dont think they'll invite them into their homes


You'd be surprised, especially in the rural midwest. First, those who're having homes worked on need the work done desperately, and as often as not, need people to come from anywhere from 50 to 200 miles away to get it done. If there's a small business with an employee that has a questionable past but can get the work done within 10 miles and willing to charge less? Why not take them up on it?

Also considering rural customers by and large tend to be armed, as police assistance is quite a long ways away, there's a lot less fear over "well, they may come back and target us!"

But it's more than just homes. Businesses, homes, new construction, everything needs tradesmen. There aren't enough tradesmen in the midwest to keep shit from falling apart at this point, let alone make real progress towards advancing services. Even simple road repair for anything other than freeways is abysmal.
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May 28 2020 09:15am
Quote (Goomshill @ 28 May 2020 16:48)
full twitter thread of a guy inspecting the damage;

https://twitter.com/webster

https://i.imgur.com/HSeRi7x.jpg


From the same photographer

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May 28 2020 09:19am
Why do people destroy shit that has nothing to do with the atrocity that they are protesting? Didn’t we learn from Baltimore that leaving a scorched earth does nothing but causes business to flea and create more desperation for an area?

Feel bad for those business owners. The wine store and your local target weren’t kneeing on that poor dudes neck.
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May 28 2020 09:27am
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You'd be surprised, especially in the rural midwest. First, those who're having homes worked on need the work done desperately, and as often as not, need people to come from anywhere from 50 to 200 miles away to get it done. If there's a small business with an employee that has a questionable past but can get the work done within 10 miles and willing to charge less? Why not take them up on it?

Also considering rural customers by and large tend to be armed, as police assistance is quite a long ways away, there's a lot less fear over "well, they may come back and target us!"

But it's more than just homes. Businesses, homes, new construction, everything needs tradesmen. There aren't enough tradesmen in the midwest to keep shit from falling apart at this point, let alone make real progress towards advancing services. Even simple road repair for anything other than freeways is abysmal.


i live in the rural midwest and literally worked for an organization who tried to place convicts in jobs. i wouldn't be surprised, im not capable of being surprised on this topic. ive made dozens of calls to trade's unions, even entirely unskilled unions. ive made hundreds of calls to businesses.

but please, speculate wildly a bit more. this was literally my job.

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Why do people destroy shit that has nothing to do with the atrocity that they are protesting? Didn’t we learn from Baltimore that leaving a scorched earth does nothing but causes business to flea and create more desperation for an area?

Feel bad for those business owners. The wine store and your local target weren’t kneeing on that poor dudes neck.


Someone played Limp Bizkit's "Break Shit" on a boombox and the rest is history.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 28 2020 09:28am
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May 28 2020 09:44am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 28 2020 11:15am)
From the same photographer

https://i.imgur.com/qODaLOc.jpg


Id say most merchandise is more valuable than the lives of anyone who participated in the riots
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May 28 2020 09:48am
Quote (Goomshill @ 28 May 2020 11:32)

reminds one of the convenience store in Ferguson owned by a little immigrant dude from India or somewhere else in South Asia that was trashed during the protests. him being a minority wasn’t important as the protestors trashing his store

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May 28 2020 10:11am
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Id say most merchandise is more valuable than the lives of anyone who participated in the riots


I'm sure they also said that in 1960's
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May 28 2020 10:13am
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 28 2020 06:11pm)
I'm sure they also said that in 1960's


Idk, 40 acres and a mule can be worth a decent penny.
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May 28 2020 10:25am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 28 2020 08:27am)
i live in the rural midwest and literally worked for an organization who tried to place convicts in jobs. i wouldn't be surprised, im not capable of being surprised on this topic. ive made dozens of calls to trade's unions, even entirely unskilled unions. ive made hundreds of calls to businesses.

but please, speculate wildly a bit more. this was literally my job.


And you were offering them skilled tradesmen? No? Then why is this your natural response?

Go back to my first post regarding what could be done to insure jobs for inmates after their incarceration. Why would a union want unskilled labor with a rap sheet? Why would any business? If you offer them highly skilled and experienced trained labor, then the willingness to overlook the rap sheet suddenly materializes.

And even if the businesses "that exist" don't particularly want them, assuming they were to receive that training, they could easily post on the punch boards at their local stores, put their name out as contractors. And let's be honest, the average person and business hiring for contract work isn't performing intense background checks. Hell, for that matter, half the employers who claim they're going to do background checks along with drug screenings never do background checks, merely the drug screenings. Telling me there's simply "no hope" is such a bald overstatement it's almost silly, and you know it.

Quote (duffman316 @ May 28 2020 08:44am)
Id say most merchandise is more valuable than the lives of anyone who participated in the riots


I'm sure the victims of the riots would agree with you, if they were still alive to do so.
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