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May 2 2019 11:35am
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I live in the inner city where a good portion of the people don’t work or work relatively little and there’s no wonderful gardens in sight tbh. Many of the houses are dilapidated so the point that more free time will just be replaced by other type of work doesn’t always hold.


there are a lot of emerging programs for inner city gardening. community raised bed gardens. some cities like Detroit, iirc, are doing it in abandoned industrial areas. but most people can fill their vegetable needs with just a 3' x 5' balcony. our society has just lost most of it's desire to do that. (largely due to working too much and food being too convenient)

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Tbh I don’t really understand why you’re so adamant in calling people stupid that simply have a different opinion on this subject. Like i said both your point on automation and his point on work being good are valid so why go agro?


his point on work is that UBI kills motivation and stops people from working, which is an ignorant mindset to have. i will continue to call people stupid that operate on strawman arguments and falsehoods. i also call people taking Yang's 1000$/month/person literally stupid. but i can try to be more balanced in who i call stupid.

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Just curious, let’s say in 30 years Labor force participation rate is like 40% due to automation. Let’s say everyone is getting the 1k or possibly more. Would you be for or against some top-down “work” creation by govt?


newdeal type local cleanup programs could be a good idea generally. and govt intervention in sector collapses could always be a good idea. re-training for truck drivers or coal miners for example, as compared to simply propping up solar markets and letting the shit work itself out. do i think the govt should be overly concerned with creating labor tho, not really. maybe in the way of reforming education for a new dawn of less labor, perhaps more emphasis on self reliance.

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I'd either invest the 1k a month or maybe think about buying a house.

The main reason I support Yang though is he's the only candidate with the right view on nuclear energy and has the right idea on campaign fiance reform. Also the US implementing a VAT I think is needed. It'd be a good way to circumvent companies skirting paying taxes.

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/

Just look at these policies. Most of his stances are pretty reasonable in my opinion.

Yang/Gabbard or Gabbard/Yang 2020.

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May 2 2019 06:11pm
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there are a lot of emerging programs for inner city gardening. community raised bed gardens. some cities like Detroit, iirc, are doing it in abandoned industrial areas. but most people can fill their vegetable needs with just a 3' x 5' balcony. our society has just lost most of it's desire to do that. (largely due to working too much and food being too convenient)



his point on work is that UBI kills motivation and stops people from working, which is an ignorant mindset to have. i will continue to call people stupid that operate on strawman arguments and falsehoods. i also call people taking Yang's 1000$/month/person literally stupid. but i can try to be more balanced in who i call stupid.



newdeal type local cleanup programs could be a good idea generally. and govt intervention in sector collapses could always be a good idea. re-training for truck drivers or coal miners for example, as compared to simply propping up solar markets and letting the shit work itself out. do i think the govt should be overly concerned with creating labor tho, not really. maybe in the way of reforming education for a new dawn of less labor, perhaps more emphasis on self reliance.


Human nature is always how to get the most with doing the least. You don't think UBI kills motivation? Have you not seen the people on welfare, or just the general mass abuse of any sort of program or hand out? Why do you think uneducated people like socialism so much? I'm all for UBI if it ends up replacing the welfare state which as a result also takes out a ton of overpaid admin but let's not kid ourselves the competition of necessity aspect of life is the only reason a ton of people work at all.
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I'd either invest the 1k a month or maybe think about buying a house.

The main reason I support Yang though is he's the only candidate with the right view on nuclear energy and has the right idea on campaign fiance reform. Also the US implementing a VAT I think is needed. It'd be a good way to circumvent companies skirting paying taxes.

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/

Just look at these policies. Most of his stances are pretty reasonable in my opinion.

Yang/Gabbard or Gabbard/Yang 2020.

Privileged lefties aren’t gonna vote for two candidates who don’t immediately default to identity politics but yeah, they’d sweep a lot of independents in a non-President Trump election. It’d be quite the ticket for sure and most here and imo America in general would be for a lot of their policies (and the memes dont hurt either)
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May 2 2019 06:47pm
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stfu

Privileged lefties aren’t gonna vote for two candidates who don’t immediately default to identity politics but yeah, they’d sweep a lot of independents in a non-President Trump election. It’d be quite the ticket for sure and most here and imo America in general would be for a lot of their policies (and the memes dont hurt either)


Trump is king of identity politics. Most successful identity politician in the modern era.
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May 2 2019 06:54pm
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Trump is king of identity politics. Most successful identity politician in the modern era.

yeah, “i will make a great economy for everyone in America” and actually doing it is ‘identity politics’. maybe in the same way that you voting for the white candidate who pushed the “black superpredator” crime bill and was mentored by someone who was in the kkk is proof you’re not a racist.

*LAUGH OUT LOUD*

Yang and Gabbard have yet to show any desire for divisive, backwards identity politics. Plus they’re the “wrong shade” of brown so a racist like you won’t entertain them. Typical two-faced northern privileged lefty nonsense :rofl:

e: reported, btw

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yeah, “i will make a great economy for everyone in America” and actually doing it is ‘identity politics’. maybe in the same way that you voting for the white candidate who pushed the “black superpredator” crime bill and was mentored by someone who was in the kkk is proof you’re not a racist.

*LAUGH OUT LOUD*

Yang and Gabbard have yet to show any desire for divisive, backwards identity politics. Plus they’re the “wrong shade” of brown so a racist like you won’t entertain them. Typical two-faced northern privileged lefty nonsense :rofl:

e: reported, btw


TIL white nationalism benefits everyone.

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TIL white nationalism benefits everyone.


is this admitting whites are superior?
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May 2 2019 07:08pm
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stfu

Privileged lefties aren’t gonna vote for two candidates who don’t immediately default to identity politics but yeah, they’d sweep a lot of independents in a non-President Trump election. It’d be quite the ticket for sure and most here and imo America in general would be for a lot of their policies (and the memes dont hurt either)


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