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Jan 30 2023 07:38am
You also don't know a shit about principle of precaution (see dumb post : so because 2 months .. is that your angle ?),
but that's to be expected with americans : they already have 2 or 300 molecules that are toxic to the point even our corrupted EU elites are not allowing that shit in our food.

Seriously I'm done with talking to you now, please do not quote me again I'll just troll you at this point.

This post was edited by Melatonina on Jan 30 2023 07:39am
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Jan 30 2023 07:40am
Quote (Melatonina @ Jan 30 2023 07:33am)
:rofl:

This post just shows how little you know about health in general, immune system and all. (see bold)

Lockdowns are the only thing working. It doesnt take a genius to get it : close frontlines and contact, and boom no more epiedmy.

Anyways, my point is proven, nuance my ass you're like all those sheeps with close to zero science education and I knew it. thanks for participating in the natural selection process.


Lockdowns in worthless countries like yours may have been partially effective, but not here.

Nothing you wrote is close to accurate. You've demonstrated zero scientific knowledge while caterwauling about everyone else. Get your own house in order before trying to trash anyone else.
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Jan 30 2023 07:41am
Quote (Melatonina @ Jan 30 2023 07:38am)
You also don't know a shit about principle of precaution (see dumb post : so because 2 months .. is that your angle ?),
but that's to be expected with americans : they already have 2 or 300 molecules that are toxic to the point even our corrupted EU elites are not allowing that shit in our food.

Seriously I'm done with talking to you now, please do not quote me again I'll just troll you at this point.


You've never been anything but a dumb, worthless troll. Don't act like anything has ever changed.

/e hell, you even PM'd me once stating as much.

So fuck off, Francis.

This post was edited by Santara on Jan 30 2023 07:42am
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Jan 30 2023 07:49am
Quote (Santara @ Jan 30 2023 07:27am)
Since you're dumb enough that you can't discern nuance, I'll fill it in for you.

The vaccine was generally effective at keeping people out of the morgue compared to nothing at all. It is generally safe. There's nothing wrong with getting it voluntarily. I got 1 dose of a 2 dose shot, as it was really more than I needed since I had a prior infection. No one should be forced to get it, and lockdowns were woefully ineffective and caused widespread harm. Boosters are dumb because they are attenuated to the original strain.


Quote (Melatonina @ Jan 30 2023 07:33am)
:rofl:

This post just shows how little you know about health in general, immune system and all. (see bold)

Lockdowns are the only thing working. It doesnt take a genius to get it : close frontlines and contact, and boom no more epiedmy.
Countries in Africa that didn't used vaccines were fine with very low cases/deaths compared to others african countries, but again that is just luck. :D

Anyways, my point is proven, nuance my ass you're like all those sheeps with close to zero science education and I knew it. thanks for participating in the natural selection process.


Lockdowns didn't work in any of the countries that did them. In the end, covid broke out. All locking down did was delay it, as we see with China right now
Countries in africa had way lower comorbidities due to young / healthier populations, places where it wasn't as easy to stay alive as a sick fat person like it is in America
While the vaccine showed good results at reducing serious or lethal illness, there's still no way to know if it has long term complications or how widespread they are, and whether its actually safe, or worth the risks, particularly in children where rates of covid lethality were so astronomically low that even small risks due to the vaccine have to be weighed against them. And the best available evidence right now is that there was some mutation or other low incidence rate condition that reacted with the vaccine to cause serious myocarditis, but at such low rates that even among health people it still compared better than rates of myocarditis and other complications from covid without the vaccine.

More importantly, covid policy was sold to us on outright lies about the science, suppressing contradictory evidence and directly lying about the policies during campaigns. Joe Biden promised he would not mandate a vaccine, then he did. Mandates were premised on the false belief that vaccines substantially mitigated the spread of covid and thus could apply to healthy populations like children with little to no personal risk, which again, was wrong. And lockdowns were forced on the populations in uniform manners without consideration to regional differences between rural and urban areas and the actual spread of disease, and blatantly ignored by cities and prosecutors who refused to enforce them and allowed mobs of people to congregate in public, but then turned around and persecuted small business owners who defied them.
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Jan 30 2023 07:50am
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If I was wrong, you would correct me, instead you just rage but you lack the evidence from reality to shut my mouth.

You don't even know how to argue cause that's not your field and I can see that, go back on the tank Billy.

Lockdowns ended in Japan and boom, all vaxxed people got infected again. :D

But since you have no arguments, you'll keep on worthless adhom posts b)





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Lockdowns didn't work in any of the countries that did them. In the end, covid broke out. All locking down did was delay it, as we see with China right now
Countries in africa had way lower comorbidities due to young / healthier populations, places where it wasn't as easy to stay alive as a sick fat person like it is in America
While the vaccine showed good results at reducing serious or lethal illness, there's still no way to know if it has long term complications or how widespread they are, and whether its actually safe, or worth the risks, particularly in children where rates of covid lethality were so astronomically low that even small risks due to the vaccine have to be weighed against them. And the best available evidence right now is that there was some mutation or other low incidence rate condition that reacted with the vaccine to cause serious myocarditis, but at such low rates that even among health people it still compared better than rates of myocarditis and other complications from covid without the vaccine.

More importantly, covid policy was sold to us on outright lies about the science, suppressing contradictory evidence and directly lying about the policies during campaigns. Joe Biden promised he would not mandate a vaccine, then he did. Mandates were premised on the false belief that vaccines substantially mitigated the spread of covid and thus could apply to healthy populations like children with little to no personal risk, which again, was wrong. And lockdowns were forced on the populations in uniform manners without consideration to regional differences between rural and urban areas and the actual spread of disease, and blatantly ignored by cities and prosecutors who refused to enforce them and allowed mobs of people to congregate in public, but then turned around and persecuted small business owners who defied them.


I have to take 2 shots in Hong Kong, if not I cannot go to a lot of places locally. And at the moment, there is a huge infection rate up north in China after they lifted the lockdowns, but the Virus is not as serious as the earlier variants like Delta etc, they have mutated and become a tad weaker.
I have a friend who gotten infected 5 times after 3 shots in Hong Kong, he is still alive and kicking and drinking like a fish.
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Lockdowns didn't work in any of the countries that did them. In the end, covid broke out. All locking down did was delay it, as we see with China right now
Countries in africa had way lower comorbidities due to young / healthier populations, places where it wasn't as easy to stay alive as a sick fat person like it is in America
While the vaccine showed good results at reducing serious or lethal illness, there's still no way to know if it has long term complications or how widespread they are, and whether its actually safe, or worth the risks, particularly in children where rates of covid lethality were so astronomically low that even small risks due to the vaccine have to be weighed against them. And the best available evidence right now is that there was some mutation or other low incidence rate condition that reacted with the vaccine to cause serious myocarditis, but at such low rates that even among health people it still compared better than rates of myocarditis and other complications from covid without the vaccine.

More importantly, covid policy was sold to us on outright lies about the science, suppressing contradictory evidence and directly lying about the policies during campaigns. Joe Biden promised he would not mandate a vaccine, then he did. Mandates were premised on the false belief that vaccines substantially mitigated the spread of covid and thus could apply to healthy populations like children with little to no personal risk, which again, was wrong. And lockdowns were forced on the populations in uniform manners without consideration to regional differences between rural and urban areas and the actual spread of disease, and blatantly ignored by cities and prosecutors who refused to enforce them and allowed mobs of people to congregate in public, but then turned around and persecuted small business owners who defied them.


Lockdowns if not respected can't be perfect and that's normal we won't cage people like China 24/7 so there will still be contacts and transmission. Hard 2020 lockdown in China didn't produced much cases right, how so ?
But if you were right, just a little, you wouldn't say that.
African countries are all in the same boat and continent, those who trusted vaccines got the highest cases/deaths.

Just check Mali and Morocco for instance.

Mali has 9,56% of its pop vaxxed. 35 deaths/1M habitant

Morocco has 62%. 431 death/1M habitant

I could go with many countries which all shows the same pattern, boosters are only boosting the epidemy.


sources
https://www.sortiraparis.com/actualites/coronavirus/articles/240384-vaccination-dans-le-monde-le-lundi-30-janvier-2023-pourcentage-de-population-vaccinee-par-pays
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jan 30 2023 02:55pm)
I have to take 2 shots in Hong Kong, if not I cannot go to a lot of places locally. And at the moment, there is a huge infection rate up north in China after they lifted the lockdowns, but the Virus is not as serious as the earlier variants like Delta etc, they have mutated and become a tad weaker.
I have a friend who gotten infected 5 times after 3 shots in Hong Kong, he is still alive and kicking and drinking like a fish.


Thanks for this. lmao your friend tho

This post was edited by Melatonina on Jan 30 2023 08:09am
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Quote (Melatonina @ Jan 30 2023 07:25am)
Funniest is, you think you're a libertarian while in reality you're just a follower accepting your cut of freedom











Don't worry Billy, you ain't the only one, some of these fools are even working in the medical field lmao


What is your point tagging me here

It’s pretty obvious in hindsight the vaccine played a HUGE role in preventing winter hospitalizations 2020 as well as spring /summer hospitalizations 2021. 90% of hospitalized covid patients across the country were unvaccinated

And as time has gone on covid has become increasingly weak for the majority of people - something that has been echoed countless times that would become a weaker endemic virus

Also I’m not libertarian rofl

French will be French I guess

1% signing off here though

This post was edited by Bazi on Jan 30 2023 09:36am
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Jan 30 2023 10:24am
Quote (Melatonina @ Jan 30 2023 07:57am)
Mali has 9,56% of its pop vaxxed. 35 deaths/1M habitant

Morocco has 62%. 431 death/1M habitant

I could go with many countries which all shows the same pattern, boosters are only boosting the epidemy.


The average malian is a 16.3 year old. They have an average 14.9% female and 5.8% male obesity rate. Less than 2.5% of their population lives over the age of 65.
The average moroccan is 29.5 years old. They have an average 37.5% female and 22.6% male obesity rate. About 7.5% of their population is over age 65

Morocco's Ministry of Health has a $2.6 billion USD budget. Mali's Ministry of Health and Public Hygiene is basically non-existent- with a $120 million initiative to set one up in the next few years- with personal healthcare spending estimated to be about $30 USD

That's an issue of demographics and reporting. If someone dies of covid in Morocco, they do so in a hospital while being treated for covid and it gets reported as a covid death. If someone dies of covid in Mali, they're in a hut with their family
Peop

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Jan 30 2023 11:28am
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I'll put meanwhile on my ignore list then.


You should never have done such personal attack, again.
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