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Jun 13 2020 10:10am
Quote (duffman316 @ 13 Jun 2020 11:46)

lmao that pale pasty wannabe thug got absolutely slapped around by the based miami law enforcement. inb4 some wierdo lefty here calls this racism

and rofl @ the recorder screaming “fuck u” over and over like a simplistic brainlet to the law enforcement, then 5 secs later begging like a sissie for them to get off the violent pale pasty privileged lefty wannabe thugs they are subduing
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Jun 13 2020 10:22am
The black cop with the badass beard at 0:19: "come at me bro" :thumbsup:


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Jun 13 2020 10:27am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 13 2020 11:22am)
The black cop with the badass beard at 0:19: "come at me bro" :thumbsup:


This has got to be a really weird time for black cops everywhere.

They've always been a contentious group. They are necessary for stopping the abuse of their community, but at the same time are pressured by the rest of the police to be complicit and are likely held by their community as being complicit whether they are complicit or not.
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This has got to be a really weird time for black cops everywhere.

They've always been a contentious group. They are necessary for stopping the abuse of their community, but at the same time are pressured by the rest of the police to be complicit and are likely held by their community as being complicit whether they are complicit or not.


Overt racial abuse by white cops probably becomes much less common once the non-white share of the local PD reaches a certain critical mass. If there's like... 2 black cops in a 20 men unit, they can be pressured to be complicit or to at least look the other way when their white colleagues abuse someone. If there's 7 or 8 of them in the 20 men unit, that's no longer feasible.

Not sure though how much it helps against non-racialized, more generic police violence.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 13 2020 11:32am)
Overt racial abuse by white cops probably becomes much less common once the non-white share of the local PD reaches a certain critical mass. If there's like... 2 black cops in a 20 men unit, they can be pressured to be complicit or to at least look the other way when their white colleagues abuse someone. If there's 7 or 8 of them in the 20 men unit, that's no longer feasible.

Not sure though how much it helps against non-racialized, more generic police violence.


I'm not aware of any police departments that follow that kind of make-up though. I'm only aware of places like Ferguson where the police are massively white policing a majority black area.
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Jun 13 2020 10:44am
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I'm not aware of any police departments that follow that kind of make-up though. I'm only aware of places like Ferguson where the police are massively white policing a majority black area.


Yes, Ferguson is currently massively "white policing" a majority black area at the guidance of a black police chief.
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Yes, Ferguson is currently massively "white policing" a majority black area at the guidance of a black police chief.


One black person, even if that black person is in a position of authority, does not mean that group is having their needs represented.
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Yes, Ferguson is currently massively "white policing" a majority black area at the guidance of a black police chief.


There's some root of racism in your country, hudge inequality, and your police is organized in the bad way probably allowing bad elements to still be able to do this job.

BLM means "Fix your shit"
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 13 2020 11:53am)
One black person, even if that black person is in a position of authority, does not mean that group is having their needs represented.


Except studies have shown that even in cases of implicit bias, it has basically no effect on police action. As does, the FBI data, CDC data, Washington Post data shows that in similar situations, officers still take the same actions regardless of race.

Plus, there is a very limited black applicant pool. Not many black people want to be police officers. And you can't just push a person through and hire them solely because of their race unless you want more of this.


https://apnews.com/1869f307d4b8478e897d9165e9dbc112/Records:-Cop-accused-in-Australian%27s-death-can%27t-take-stress

I am however all for hiring Black people to represent black communities, not that I believe it will have an impact on police actions, but because it can create better community relations due to strong negative stereotype towards white police officers. However in many cases, as I said, that's not an option due to a limited applicant pool.

"This concept of hidden implicit biases emerged from research that developed a variety of implicit bias tests. These tests purport to expose ingrained biased perceptions of the world.37 For example, in the implicit bias test regarding sexism, the test taker must rapidly answer questions like, “Who did the laundry, a man or a woman?” If, under a very short time limit, you first answer “woman,” it suggests that you have unconscious sexists views as either men or women could equally have done the laundry. Even if you are a woman, if you initially considered that the woman might have done the laundry, then (it is suggested) you have deeply ingrained sexist stereotypes that must be overcome. However, research as recent as 2015 reveals that women actually still do the overwhelming majority of the household chores in America.38 Even though the answer “woman” is statistically far more likely to be correct, the test claims that you are sexist for selecting the woman.

The same goes for the implicit bias test regarding racism toward African-Americans. Despite the fact that African-Americans are currently disproportionately more involved in crime than any other race in the U.S., and disproportionately live in poverty, answering questions in a way that suggests African-Americans might be poor or involved in crime produces a test result of implicit bias.39However, there is overwhelming evidence that there is little or no relationship between one’s implicit bias score on racism and any actual prejudicial behavior. A team of research psychologists from Rice University, University of Virginia, University of Connecticut, and the University of Pennsylvania reviewed 46 studies (involving more than 5,600 participants) that tested whether a person’s implicit racial bias score predicted their prejudicial behavior against people of a different race. While they found that one’s overt racism – openly racist beliefs – predicted prejudicial behavior, implicit bias test scores rarely did.40 Furthermore, another study put 80 police officers through rigorous, stress-inducing lethal force scenarios in a simulator and found that the officers’ implicit bias scores had no impact on how quickly they decided to fire on black or white criminal suspects, or whether they accidentally shot a black suspect who did not have a weapon. In fact, in this study, the officers ended up drawing their weapon and firing faster for white suspects than black, and were more likely to shoot white suspects than black suspects on accident.
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The evidence suggests that law enforcement officers do not disproportionately kill African-Americans and Hispanics when one considers the rate at which individuals belonging to these racial groups attack and kill officers. Therefore, evidence of bias is lacking. In fact, reextensive research has failed to find an association between implicit bias test scores and racially prejudicial behavior."

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.dolanconsultinggroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Dispelling-the-Myths-Surrounding-Police-Use-of-Lethal-Force.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiW--vssf_pAhXoRTABHal9AZsQFjAGegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3QfYQ1bCO2gmJ46J_zYvZH

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jun 13 2020 12:17pm
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Jun 13 2020 12:18pm
Doesn't address what I said
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