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Feb 15 2018 11:01pm
Quote (CPK001 @ Feb 15 2018 10:51pm)
You said that none of that has been substantiated. You need to explain how The Bible is not evident enough, along with all of creation and how this story has been passed down from generation to generation.

Jesus died once and for all, he's not going to do it again.


Nah, burden of proof is on the person who claims the bible is true.

There have been a lot of things passed down from generation to generation, and to the best of our knowledge the bible isn't nearly the oldest.
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Nah, burden of proof is on the person who claims the bible is true.

There have been a lot of things passed down from generation to generation, and to the best of our knowledge the bible isn't nearly the oldest.


What about this: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73889562&f=119&p=525625079#p525625079
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You can find trends in random numbers if you are willing to look long enough. Why multiply the remaining years and not the whole term? Why start from when Cyrus conquered and allowed them to return? Also none of the passages in Leviticus are talking about the exile, again its just picked for convenience.

The bible has a lot of numbers, you can "prove"anything if you cherry pick
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You can find trends in random numbers if you are willing to look long enough. Why multiply the remaining years and not the whole term? Why start from when Cyrus conquered and allowed them to return? Also none of the passages in Leviticus are talking about the exile, again its just picked for convenience.

The bible has a lot of numbers, you can "prove"anything if you cherry pick


Jeremiah 25:11 - This whole country will become a desolate wasteland, and these nations will serve the king of Babylon seventy years.

The Babylonian was the second captivity which lasted 70 years, which ended in 536 B.C. If you read the beginning of Ezra, Cyrus allowed the Jews to return to rebuild the Temple of the LORD. Unfortunately only a few decided to return while the vast majority of the Jews chose to remain in the pagan Persian Empire as colonists and tradesmen. Most of the Jews did not repent of their rebellion against God.

I could tell you the rest but this article pretty much explains the whole thing. http://www.grantjeffrey.com/pdf/JeffBIBLE-EzekVision2.pdf
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So Jesus is Joseph son or not?
If not, do you seriously think Mary was inseminated by 'god'?

Imo he's Joseph Son, but his message stays unchanged; kick the illegals out, right to bear arms, etc

Regards, your people are polarizing Christianity so hard you are the only ones to blame for its decline.

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So Jesus is Joseph son or not?
If not, do you seriously think Mary was inseminated by 'god'?

Imo he's Joseph Son, but his message stays unchanged; kick the illegals out, right to bear arms, etc

Regards, your people are polarizing Christianity so hard you are the only ones to blame for its decline.


Without a doubt it has declined.

A few generations ago being a Christian was the norm and the popularity. Being an Atheist a few generations ago was looked down upon.
Yet a generation after that the Christian hype was lost and it became that you have your beliefs and I have mine.
In the here and now it is looked down upon to be a Christian and popular to be an Atheist.

It's a good thing that popularity isn't my ultimate goal. Through all of that, God is good and God is in control.
I feel that part of the reason could be that Christians aren't being persecuted as much as they used to be.
It is a well known fact that God works in mysterious ways. The way that he works is that the more Christians are persecuted, the more popular it will become and the more people will come to believe.

How powerless must you feel when you would pull out all the stops, go on a mass murdering rampage to Christians all with the intent to drown it out forever, yet that very act is causing more people to come to Christ?
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Telling the true Gospel is what I will keep doing whether it's popular or not. It's only declining in America and Europe because they are a bunch of spoiled brats. Socialism was unthinkable a generation ago. They knew better and they knew the evil that would come from it and has come from it. This new generation is blinded and arrogant. Christianity is expanding in South America, Africa and other parts of the world.

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Telling the true Gospel is what I will keep doing whether it's popular or not. It's only declining in America and Europe because they are a bunch of spoiled brats. Socialism was unthinkable a generation ago. They knew better and they knew the evil that would come from it and has come from it. This new generation is blinded and arrogant. Christianity is expanding in South America, Africa and other parts of the world.


Christianity is expanding in ignorants, conflict, violent areas.
Socialism (aka democratic one) is arrogance ? how stupid are you... It's necessary, watch out all the best countries in the world: those are social democraties and not religious.
Inequalities are increasing at crazy levels, if theres not a social effort you are directly going into... a wall...

Watch out usa: mass shootings, prayers, racism, wow congrats.

State preval and -extremism in - religion have to be cleaned of this planet as soon as possible. (what ? you think it's arrogant ?)


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