Quote (Meanwhile @ 27 Jan 2023 16:14)

How about looking back in History: Peace Deals which happened in the full middle of a war where both parties had most of their military strenght.
Would also add: Which one should prove its good will first for ending the "conflict": the agressor or the victim ?

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 27 2023 01:33pm)

The justification is now "Russia is Russia" :rofl:

What a pathetic shill.

Quote (fender @ Jan 27 2023 01:22pm)

any halfway intelligent person would realise that things like "russia is russia" and "pootin wants more" aren't arguments. there are agreed upon (by russia as well btw) international borders, and crimea as well as donbas belong to ukraine. those are FACTS.

again, pootin could end this war today, not a single person would have to die anymore. he wouldn't even have to "give up" anything that doesn't belong to russia. those should be more than agreeable terms to someone who STARTED a war and killed countless innocent people, including many women and children. that is if their goal was PEACE. but that clearly isn't on russia's agenda. they want to CONQUER LAND. first crimea, then donbas, then the rest of ukraine, then transnistria, and who knows what's next on their agenda?

you're like a hostage negotiator arguing that the kidnapper can't possibly give up little kathy and little derek, because he's REALLY fond of them, and everyone should understand that letting them go are non-acceptable terms - because they said so. you're not arguing from an outsider's perspective, you're undeniably taking russia's position. that's why people correctly identify you as a kremlin NPC, incapable of critical thinking.

Quote (fender @ 27 Jan 2023 17:27)

clearly ukraine should just stop fighting and hand over its territory to russia if they really wanted to end this war. negotiation simply means: ask pootin what he wants and agree to it - otherwise you just don't want peace. every kremlin bot understands that.

ukraine asked to join NATO for protection, so pootin was practically forced to show them there is no need for protection. to really drive home that point, he is currently slaughtering innocent people and utterly destroying a whole country. his plan worked perfectly too: no one else wants to join nato now because the whole world realises what a peaceful and reasonable nation russia is under his rule. masterful strategy, what a leader. definitely someone whose word you can rely on. like when he said that ukraine is the master of its own destiny, and that it wasn't russia's call to make what their future will look like. so wise, so magnanimous, i bet he has no critics whatsoever.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 27 Jan 2023 17:33)

Is it a German speciality to remain as mad as fender does without having some sort of stroke?

Dude needs a hug and a puppy to pet or something good lord

Quote (fender @ Jan 27 2023 12:46pm)

you do realise the irony in you stalking me like that, making complete off topic posts full of oddly specific personal attacks (seek help maybe?), while at the same time calling ME "mad", right?
oh wait, you clearly don't. that might just make it even funnier. xD

guess you're still butthurt about me exposing you had no clue that russia and ukraine are still negotiating things like humanitarian corridors and prisoner exchanges. or is this still about your failure to understand what unilateral ceasefire means? i schooled you too many times, so it's difficult to know which one you're so upset about...

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 27 Jan 2023 17:47)

So is that a yes?

Quote (fender @ Jan 27 2023 12:51pm)

it's a clear no, you definitely didn't get the irony, lol. keep following me around though, keep yapping, doggy.

Quote (Djunior @ 27 Jan 2023 17:38)

No justification, just cold hard facts.

Now lets compare the slaughter of several hundred thousand Iraqi civilians to the perhaps ten thousand Ukrainian civilians that died.

Inb4 another dodge



Bolded: I never said that so F you liar.

And Russia is Russia is a fact. That they'd never let Crimea go was predictable. You got to be a completely braindead if you don't understand that. Or a purple haired "progressive", lol

Quote (fender @ Jan 27 2023 12:56pm)

russia being russia might be a "fact", but it's not a reason to just ignore international borders and pretend that a dictator claiming a region belongs to them automatically makes it so. a halfway intelligent person would understand the difference.

pootin could end this war today, not a single person would have to die in this war any more. he wouldn't even have to "give up" anything that doesn't belong to russia. those should be more than agreeable terms to someone who STARTED a war and killed countless innocent people, including many women and children. that is if his goal was PEACE - but that clearly isn't on russia's agenda. they want to CONQUER LAND that doesn't belong to them. first crimea, then donbas, then the rest of ukraine, then transnistria, and who knows what's next?

"russia being russia" doesn't make that acceptable or reasonable. that's where your kremlin bot "logic" fails you.