https://www.yahoo.com/news/chicago-investigating-officers-lounging-during-202511818.html

while we can all agree that we want less police brutality and more genuine police reform in our nation, is it really necessary for the Chicago mayor to actively criticize police who are not brutalizing anyone during the peaceful protests???

"Lethal dose" is widely variable. A report from NH showed concentrations as little as .75 ng/ml and as high as 113 ng/ml. And honestly, have you ever had experience with a person on heroine? It depressed your system, including your breathing. Now ADD constriction of breathing to someone who's in such a situation, and it's a recipe for disaster. Might he have died on his own from this? Sure. Was his situation exasperated by the police involvement? Absolutely. If you smother grandma with a pillow while she's dying in hospice care from cancer, you are still guilty of murder.

They are probably antifa plants in sleeper cells with that old dude.

not sure what kind of timeline you've got
8:01 the police are called by the store
8:08 two cops arrive
8:09 they approach floyd in his vehicle
8:10 they start to pull floyd from his vehicle and cuff him
8:12 they sit him down on the sidewalk
8:13 they tell him he's under arrest and try to walk him to the cop car
they continue to struggle with him as they try to get him into the vehicle
8:17 two more cops arrive, floyd declares "I can't breathe" while still struggling with them and not restrained
8:18 they manage to get him horizontally into the vehicle, but he's still struggling
8:19 they pull him out of the vehicle and lay him on the ground
8:20: one cop puts his knee on floyd's neck to restrain him while the other hold his body, and Floyd repeatedly says he can't breathe
8:22: the cops call EMTs on a code 2 (non-emergency)
8:23: the cops call EMTs again, upgrading to code 3 (emergency)
8:25: floyd appears to go fully unconscious and unresponsive, and one officer checks his pulse and finds none
8:27: EMTs arrive
8:28: cops stop restraining him and lift the knee from his neck
8:29: floyd is put onto a stretcher and driven to a hospital
8:32: firefighters arrive
8:37: firefighters catch up to the ambulance on the way to the hospital and find floyd with no pulse
9:00: blood is drawn from floyd that is later used in autopsy, officially antemortem but he's been without a pulse for 35 minutes
9:25: floyd is pronounced dead at HCMC


change your "5 minutes" to "-3 minutes"

there is a window of problem here.. last line probably the most damning

My wife observed someone come into the hospital with BAC over the poisoning threshold during her hours for EMT training. Lifetime alcoholic, appeared mostly normal given the BAC. People exposed to harmful substances and environments build tolerances to it. George Floyd probably on the higher tolerance end for these things.

thank you...

So which one is the best comparison:

- offering a drink to an already completely alchoolized person, who will drive then kill himself in an accident. Are you a murderer or not ?

- pushing your knee on the neck of a man who says "i can't breath", continue to push for few minuets (until he dies, but hu you didnt know about that lol)

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jun 12 2020 02:42pm

I saw that too.. I was like. Really?

Maybe some administrative punishment but having it aired on national news? Whatever they can do to further smear the police I guess.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jun 12 2020 03:37pm

Meanwhile in miami
https://mobile.twitter.com/madisongesiotto/status/1271439908863971330