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Jan 26 2023 01:48pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jan 26 2023 07:37pm)
the german foreign minister literally said that we are at war with russia :bonk:

they got this under control folks, nothing to see here


Source?
Even if he said that, its better than the last minister who was taking her kids on holiday in government helicopters.
Furthermore, Germany is at war with Russia. Economically, informationally and conventionally by proxy.

Putin has been hoping that nuclear blackmail would damage the West's unity. It hasn't worked, and never would.
Russia will never instigate direct conflict with NATO, and if they decide to use a nuke Putin is signing Russia's death waver.

the US, UK and France will never stand for Russia or any power using nuclear weapons in the European theatre, without massive retaliation.

Putin said he wasn't bluffing and they initially bought it. Finally they woke up.

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Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 26 2023 07:47pm)
"Gaps in the previous legislation that only allowed for fines or probationary sentences"
Would have to check that.
But if you want something really "great" i'm suggesting you the Wagner's methods.


to be fair, making it illegal to negotiate with the enemy during a time of war is pretty out there.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 26 2023 07:48pm)
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Even if he said that, its better than the last minister who was taking her kids on holiday in government helicopters.
Furthermore, Germany is at war with Russia. Economically, informationally and conventionally by proxy.

Putin has been hoping that nuclear blackmail would damage the West's unity. It hasn't worked, and never would.
Russia will never instigate direct conflict with NATO, and if they decide to use a nuke Putin is signing Russia's death waver.

the US, UK and France will never stand for Russia or any power using nuclear weapons in the European theatre, without massive retaliation.

Putin said he wasn't bluffing and they initially bought it. Finally they woke up.


lets revisit this in the event that Ukraine liberates crimea.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 26 2023 01:49pm
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Quote (ferdia @ 26 Jan 2023 20:48)
to be fair, making it illegal to negotiate with the enemy during a time of war is pretty out there.


Cherry pick up over cherry pick up.

- So because Putin put underequipped soldiers on battle field during his agression... Ukraine is at fault ?
- Do you think Ukraine will sign new laws clearly violating international laws without any problem ?

Feel free to show me what is really wrong.
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Jan 26 2023 02:01pm
Quote (ferdia @ Jan 26 2023 07:48pm)
to be fair, making it illegal to negotiate with the enemy during a time of war is pretty out there.
lets revisit this in the event that Ukraine liberates crimea.


I don't think we will ever need to revisit this then :D
Lets revisit this once Ukraine repels another massive Russian offensive.

The alternative is what though? We never support our allies because Putin MIGHT use nuclear weapons?
Where does that get us?

Quote (Djunior @ Jan 26 2023 07:43pm)
Zelensky recently (Jan 24th) signed a new law to crack down on desertion and failure of complying with combat orders -_-

https://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-signs-law-increasing-consequences-002937510.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAE63rDxyDYbiLIlQ4y29pGRvKT9PplEICBhxAJDaPcO9n_6CYI_Z97dGfRzq4XmqfX18QxMbOs6slp63xu0f2oRQjxLZ62eYhaoacvlumA9FpfGXDxgDT4QrZZK7UlPYiGhOlKTwd7Fq5HcnOgFLaQEmRATrrwzA0F0f2Rm49Gxl


Guy is busy signing controversial laws, like that law that forbids negotiations with Russia and that law that allows the Ukrainian govt to censor news outlets.

Great stuff right??


Worse than a sledgehammer to the face?


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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 26 2023 08:48pm)
Source?
Even if he said that, its better than the last minister who was taking her kids on holiday in government helicopters.
Furthermore, Germany is at war with Russia. Economically, informationally and conventionally by proxy.

Putin has been hoping that nuclear blackmail would damage the West's unity. It hasn't worked, and never would.
Russia will never instigate direct conflict with NATO, and if they decide to use a nuke Putin is signing Russia's death waver.

the US, UK and France will never stand for Russia or any power using nuclear weapons in the European theatre, without massive retaliation.

Putin said he wasn't bluffing and they initially bought it. Finally they woke up.


https://twitter.com/DrLuetke/status/1618227215803768832?t=BFwvhMTqWMOUrRc2_4EjtQ&s=19

its a she by the way and the minister you mentioned is the former minister of defense

the fun part is that these clowns deny that we are at war with russia, but here the truth accidentally came out

just yesterday the chancellor was like "we are not at war with russia AT ALL"

looks like they are not on the same page
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Jan 26 2023 02:04pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jan 26 2023 08:01pm)
https://twitter.com/DrLuetke/status/1618227215803768832?t=BFwvhMTqWMOUrRc2_4EjtQ&s=19

its a she by the way and the minister you mentioned is the former minister of defense

the fun part is that these clowns deny that we are at war with russia, but here the truth accidentally came out

just yesterday the chancellor was like "we are not at war with russia AT ALL"

looks like they are not on the same page


I misunderstood my bad, you wrote foreign secretary.
How many parties make up the German government though? Isn't it a coalition?

Most likely not all on the same page. In the UK the governing party are all not even on the same page.
Imo Scholz is a weak leader.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jan 26 2023 02:04pm
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Jan 26 2023 02:06pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 26 Jan 2023 21:01)
Worse than a sledgehammer to the face?


They cut testicles too.
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Jan 26 2023 02:07pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 26 2023 08:47pm)
"Gaps in the previous legislation that only allowed for fines or probationary sentences"


Great excuse, lol

The fact that such law is needed shows that the Ukrainian heroes are actually deserting or do not comply with combat orders.

BTW no Western MSM reported this as far as I know, I wonder why.

Also it seems like they completely stopped reporting on the Ukrainian govt corruption scandal, lol. Nothing to see here I guess...
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Jan 26 2023 02:13pm
Quote (Djunior @ 26 Jan 2023 21:07)
Great excuse, lol
The fact that such law is needed shows that the Ukrainian heroes are actually deserting or do not comply with combat orders.
BTW no Western MSM reported this as far as I know, I wonder why.
Also it seems like they completely stopped reporting on the Ukrainian govt corruption scandal, lol. Nothing to see here I guess...


Did you know Wagner is cutting testicles or crushing brainskuklls with sledge hammers ?

Did you know the Russians are not only putting their own kind underequipped on battle field:
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-war-russia-deserting-troops/32232716.html

but also forcing Ukrainian conscripts into battle, probably in first cannon food lines... Barely humans shields.
https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/08/11/russia-is-forcing-ukrainian-conscripts-into-battle

Do you think Ukraine & Zelensly can afford to "sign" new laws clearly violating international laws without any problem ?



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Quote (Djunior @ 26 Jan 2023 20:43)
Zelensky recently (Jan 24th) signed a new law to crack down on desertion and failure of complying with combat orders -_-

https://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-signs-law-increasing-consequences-002937510.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAE63rDxyDYbiLIlQ4y29pGRvKT9PplEICBhxAJDaPcO9n_6CYI_Z97dGfRzq4XmqfX18QxMbOs6slp63xu0f2oRQjxLZ62eYhaoacvlumA9FpfGXDxgDT4QrZZK7UlPYiGhOlKTwd7Fq5HcnOgFLaQEmRATrrwzA0F0f2Rm49Gxl


Guy is busy signing controversial laws, like that law that forbids negotiations with Russia and that law that allows the Ukrainian govt to censor news outlets.

Great stuff right??


meanwhile in russia:

https://www.baltictimes.com/russia_designates_riga-based_news_outlet_meduza_as__undesirable_organization_/

yet our totally unbiased, totally not a kremlin bot user "djunior" doesn't say a word about how outlets critical of russia's war are simply outlawed, just like countless international organisations that didn't lick pootin's boots enough, or all the critical journalists and opposition politicians that mysteriously disappeared, had unfortunate "accidents", drank bad tea, or were locked away on made up charges... no, the REAL evil is fighting back against outright propaganda by russian troll farms and government controlled fake news outlets...
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