Nothing the west does in terms of supplying the Kiev regime with weapons m, satellite intelligence or money will change the outcome of the conflict. Russia will win. The west will live to regret sending weapons for use against Russia. First, the weapons are not performing well. Not good for arms sales. Then there are the secondary effects of the conflict. The west admits to lying about peace agreements with Russia. There was never any intention to make peace with Russia. Not good for the west should it need to enter into military agreements or treaties with other countries in the future. Finally, the world now has a good reason to move away from the dollar as a reserve currency. However, the USA has succeeded in accelerating its own decline as a world power. And, it has speeded up formation of a multi polar world.

I'm not American and I don't support the west messing with the rest of the world or instigating the situation in Ukraine. I don't support my own country taking part either.

What is your goal here? Are you just ranting to feel better or do you actually think talking to people like this will convince them of something?

pretty sure he is just ranting, i mean he gave out to me about my country sending tanks, when ireland does not even have tanks. i think he's taking a scatter gun approach. he will get there eventually (or not).

in the meantime you combo breaker'ed his run of double posting.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 26 2023 09:44am

See, this is a good comment! I agree with most of that. To me the reserve currency thing is the biggest problem for the west, that could flip the balance of power in the world very quickly and this whole situation is incentive for it to happen sooner in my opinion.

Sucks for me since I'm from the west but that's why I'm against this sort of stuff, I wish my country and it's allies would focus more on diplomacy than enforcing their will through the financial system or military force.

Bro you not understand, red line cross your government
it send tanks we must do nuclear to answer aggression of Evil Zionist regime who do evil and kill 240,000 ethnic Russian of 8 year
You say not support but do anything see problem is THEY STEALING YOUR HARDWORKING TAX PAYERS MONEY MAKE ZELENSKY BILLIONAIRE
THEY NOT CARE OF UKRAINE, UKRAINE RUSSIA LAND ALWAYS! We had deal 1989 CCCP no more, but get Kazakstan Belarys Ukraine influence buffer and NO POLAND/BALTIC iN NATO
OK? All deal broke your west leader corrupt in blood of ethnic russian, we 17 SECONDS AWAY FROM NUCLEAR at any time now

Berlin and Washington gave their fire to the delivery of battle tanks. This new equipment marks a new stage in the armed conflict, and represents a challenge for the Ukrainian general staff and its Western allies.

45 tons for the T-72s, 60 for the German Leopard-2s and American Abrams, 70 for the British Challenger 2s. Course information will of course be classified.

Absolute secrecy for these precious convoys

"A road column is necessarily slower and more detectable. And there has not yet been a major concern for the rail supply of [multiple rocket launchers] HiMars, [guns] Caesar or anti-aircraft defense", estimates Thibault Fouillet , research fellow at the Foundation for Strategic Research. At this stage, only a few German howitzers were destroyed at the margins.
"The Russian strikes target intra-Ukrainian transport more, especially when it was necessary to move large pieces of artillery to the southern front", underlines Nicolas Gosset. Russian forces have lost their ability to hit moving targets, the expert adds. Above all, "Ukrainian anti-aircraft defenses have been gradually reinforced since the beginning of September, with an increasingly robust ecosystem", especially as Patriot systems are expected.

/e source : francetvinfo.fr

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jan 26 2023 09:55am

Yes you send tank, INSANE! OVER WHAT? A UKRAINE? not even find on map if pay to find you. Sorry I not violent but what you think HAPPEN NEXT? Responsible on your hand for do this when Poland start be radioctive from nuclear.

Satan cries "TAKE AIM." This is unspeakably evil idiocy on the USA's part.

They are going to have a very hard time refuelling, maintaining, changing tracks, and fighting the enemy successfully. It's too much tech anyway and too much speed, for newly trained Ukrainian crews. They will get obliterated. Completely untenable combat scenario...

What amazes me is that US regime never has enough money for its dire schools, roads, dams, bridges, healthcare, dental care... where some neighborhoods have standard of living of Somalia. But it always has infinite money for wars, coups, bombings, sanctions, invasions...

Good for Russia. They will have opportunity to see both Abrams and Leopard 2 tank during fight and make improvements in own tanks production. Russia doubled number if own tank factories last year. Military operation in Ukraine will last for a very long time and there will be plenty of time to test resuslts of Russian tank improvements.


Russia is just confident, stoic and also advancing on the front. The Uki's and the west are trying everything, but it just looks like they are helpless against Russia.

In wwii the Sherman tanks defeated the Panzers on the battlefield despite being slower, having less armor and out-gunned because the panzer was a high maintenance gas hog. Shermans often pummeled panzers with rounds until the crews surrendered. No damage was caused but the shock wave inside the panzer was unbearable