d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > Russia / Ukraine
Prev1205620572058205920605001Next
Closed New Topic New Poll
Views: 385091Replies: 50000Track Topic
Member
Posts: 66,666
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
#20571
Jan 25 2023 02:46pm
Quote (Pisior @ 25 Jan 2023 21:39)
let him, he seems more inteligent than you, he try to understand me , and i try to understand him. not like you with all your prejudice , you are a blocked mind.


You wrote : "but some scotland dog got laptops and jsp acc ofc". Sounds like some kind of a personal attack to me.
Member
Posts: 4,156
Joined: Mar 20 2021
Gold: 0.00
Warn: 30%
#20572
Jan 25 2023 02:50pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 25 2023 09:46pm)
You wrote : "but some scotland dog got laptops and jsp acc ofc". Sounds like some kind of a personal attack to me.


yep, but he know my humor, almost the same as his . not the first time. d2c > all
Member
Posts: 28,880
Joined: Aug 11 2013
Gold: 10,712.00
#20573
Jan 25 2023 03:20pm
Give an inch take a mile. This is the tank thing was a big deal. It's not that they are a game changer on the battle field because they are absolutely not but it shows that Germany can be pressured into giving more eventually.

Quote
Ukraine says it will now push for Western fourth-generation fighter jets such as the American F-16 after securing dozens of high-end battle tanks from NATO allies.

Ukraine won a huge boost for its troops as the United States and Germany announced plans to provide heavy tanks for Kyiv on Wednesday.

Not a chance

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said there was no chance of fighter jets being sent to Ukraine.

“I made it clear very early on that we are not talking about combat aircraft, and I am doing the same here,” he said in the Bundestag.

Scholz added, “We will not send ground troops under any circumstances. I have said there will be no direct involvement of NATO soldiers in the Ukraine war. That has not been the case so far and that will not be the case in the future. And everyone can rely on that.”


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/1/25/ukraine-eyes-fighter-jets-after-securing-advanced-nato-tanks

Member
Posts: 66,666
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
#20574
Jan 25 2023 03:33pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 25 Jan 2023 22:20)
Give an inch take a mile. This is the tank thing was a big deal. It's not that they are a game changer on the battle field because they are absolutely not but it shows that Germany can be pressured into giving more eventually.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/1/25/ukraine-eyes-fighter-jets-after-securing-advanced-nato-tanks


Yes, seems they are asking really alot, and now the bombing capability.
Next step Ukraine will ask for nuclear capable submarine with SBLM nuke heads. :rofl:

I see alot of posts that russians just increased their attack today.


about tanks.

Confirmed:
🇬🇧14 Challenger 2
🇵🇱14 Leopard 2A4
🇩🇪14 Leopard 2A6

Full confirmation awaited:
🇵🇹4 Leopard 2A6
🇪🇸20-53 Leopard 2A4
🇺🇸30 Abrams M1
8 Leopard 2A4
🇫🇮14 Leopard 2A4/6

Discussion:
🇳🇱18 Leopard 2A6
🇩🇰6 Leopard 2A5/7



I am not expert enough to know if tanks are really required or not, but it is clear IMHO that if it wasn't the West would have never give them considering the cost.

Maybe this ?

https://www.dw.com/en/why-does-ukraine-need-tanks-from-the-west/video-64512839


Member
Posts: 56,418
Joined: Jan 19 2007
Gold: 582,500.02
#20575
Jan 25 2023 04:08pm
how news is reported in my country:

"US joins Germany in sending battle tanks to Ukraine "

when in fact germany only moved after america moved.

sad.

i know someone likes quotes so here:

US President Joe Biden, who has spoken with key European allies about supporting Kyiv's fight, was poised to deliver an address from the White House on the US tank deliveries.

"The United States will send 31 M1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine, which is the equivalent of one Ukrainian tank battalion," a senior administration official told journalists of the move - a significant reversal after US defense officials repeatedly described the Abrams as ill-suited for the task at hand.

"Tanks are complex systems that require a significant amount of training and maintenance," the official said, and the United States "will begin now to work to establish a comprehensive training programme."

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 25 2023 04:09pm
Member
Posts: 45,719
Joined: Aug 25 2008
Gold: 40,130.00
#20576
Jan 25 2023 04:18pm
Quote (ferdia @ 26 Jan 2023 06:08)
how news is reported in my country:

"US joins Germany in sending battle tanks to Ukraine "

when in fact germany only moved after america moved.

sad.

i know someone likes quotes so here:

US President Joe Biden, who has spoken with key European allies about supporting Kyiv's fight, was poised to deliver an address from the White House on the US tank deliveries.

"The United States will send 31 M1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine, which is the equivalent of one Ukrainian tank battalion," a senior administration official told journalists of the move - a significant reversal after US defense officials repeatedly described the Abrams as ill-suited for the task at hand.

"Tanks are complex systems that require a significant amount of training and maintenance," the official said, and the United States "will begin now to work to establish a comprehensive training programme."


They will lose one or two Abrams
Member
Posts: 66,666
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
#20577
Jan 25 2023 04:26pm
Quote (ferdia @ 25 Jan 2023 23:08)
how news is reported in my country:

"US joins Germany in sending battle tanks to Ukraine "

when in fact germany only moved after america moved.

sad.

i know someone likes quotes so here:

US President Joe Biden, who has spoken with key European allies about supporting Kyiv's fight, was poised to deliver an address from the White House on the US tank deliveries.

"The United States will send 31 M1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine, which is the equivalent of one Ukrainian tank battalion," a senior administration official told journalists of the move - a significant reversal after US defense officials repeatedly described the Abrams as ill-suited for the task at hand.

"Tanks are complex systems that require a significant amount of training and maintenance," the official said, and the United States "will begin now to work to establish a comprehensive training programme."



Initially Abrams were a NoNo, because of maintenance cost. Now it's "ok" but on the paper the delay is up to 1 year....


Member
Posts: 56,418
Joined: Jan 19 2007
Gold: 582,500.02
#20578
Jan 25 2023 04:43pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 25 2023 10:26pm)
Initially Abrams were a NoNo, because of maintenance cost. Now it's "ok" but on the paper the delay is up to 1 year....


alot can happen in a year.

/edit alot WILL happen in 2023.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 25 2023 04:43pm
Member
Posts: 66,666
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
#20579
Jan 25 2023 04:47pm
Quote (ferdia @ 25 Jan 2023 23:43)
alot can happen in a year.

/edit alot WILL happen in 2023.


Y right now Russia is maybe doing a major attack (also air sirens in Kyiv ?) because it can 1/ get in the mud in spring 2/ get rekt in summer

I means this is what they should do, to attack massively right now, but CAN they ? Are their men trained and equipped ? ... And motivated ...
Member
Posts: 66,666
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
#20580
Jan 25 2023 05:01pm
ecofriendly (someone has the US turbin tank ?)



This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jan 25 2023 05:02pm
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev1205620572058205920605001Next
Closed New Topic New Poll

© 2003-2026 d2jsp  Contact