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Jan 25 2023 01:46pm
well lets try, the english version of above: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-23_Hawk

that weapon is short range, so no change in policy.

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well lets try, the english version of above: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-23_Hawk


Old tech, mostly obsolete against modern weapons but good enough for some of the older and slower shit. Israel provided some stuff for Ukraine only for Russia to return the favor and sell Iran 24 SU-34 jets.

Israel may give Ukraine some minor things as a gesture here and there but they won't provide real deal weapons to Ukraine because things like the above. Also, Israel to this day has ties to Russia. You had a ton of Russian Jews eventually find their way to Israel. The countries have somewhat of an understanding of not to step on each others toes too much.

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Old tech, mostly obsolete against modern weapons but good enough for some of the older and slower shit. Israel provided some stuff for Ukraine only for Russia to return the favor and sell Iran 24 SU-34 jets.

Israel may give Ukraine some minor things as a gesture here and there but they won't provide real deal weapons to Ukraine because things like the above.


yes i wiki and read that article. no reason for israel not to provide these but they might be trying to be neutral, yes i know, perish that thought.

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i propose to stop everythings who work for society. let see who are the strong and who are the weak who cant survive without their society. you should go out of your tower somtime, and sit in a forest for few days, it could help you to come back in the right way.



well cant be optimist , look at our world ! check your scientist apocalyps clock.
its not a news that some country got striclty nothing because they are useless for our modern slave consumer world .


Oh you mean like hunger games? So your saying if I'm stronger than you, I can take everything you have? Because. Well I'm stronger than you.

So stop working for society. Then sit in a forest. Then what?
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Old tech, mostly obsolete against modern weapons but good enough for some of the older and slower shit. Israel provided some stuff for Ukraine only for Russia to return the favor and sell Iran 24 SU-34 jets.

Israel may give Ukraine some minor things as a gesture here and there but they won't provide real deal weapons to Ukraine because things like the above. Also, Israel to this day has ties to Russia. You had a ton of Russian Jews eventually find their way to Israel. The countries have somewhat of an understanding of not to step on each others toes too much.


Its a good point about Russia/Iran but those SU-34 jets where also in exchange for Iranian drones.

Russia scraping the barrel of international trade partners. Iran and North Korea.
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doomsday prepping leads to doomsday fantasizing, or wait, maybe it's the other way around, who knows. typically these cucks buying canned food and ammo couldn't even start a fire if they had to
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Jan 25 2023 02:01pm
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well lets try, the english version of above: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-23_Hawk

that weapon is short range, so no change in policy.


Some countries incorporated their own modifications to this combat system as follows:
Israel
The Israelis have improved the standard Phase II with the addition of a Super Eye (electro-optical television system) for aircraft detection from 30-40 km and identification from 17-25 km. They also extended the practical missile ceiling to an altitude of 24,000 m.

What's astounding is the amount of units produced, in thousands, and the unitary price (250k $ per unit)
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Jan 25 2023 02:03pm
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The vatnik is chauvinistic, blindly patriotic and unintelligent, wholeheartedly supporting the positions of Russian government media and web brigades.
"Simply put, the vatnik is representative of a certain Russian archetype that supports the regime out of fear, hatred of others, or most often a combination of both."
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Its a good point about Russia/Iran but those SU-34 jets where also in exchange for Iranian drones.

Russia scraping the barrel of international trade partners. Iran and North Korea.


Maybe idk haven't seen anything to confirm that. It's pretty obvious though that they still hold key influence in the ME. Israel literally gains nothing and has a lot to lose.

Their military industrial complex is okay me thinks, a few things from NK or Iran don't amount to much. If you want to look at their international trade though it has exploded with India and China to record levels.

Considering those two places alone account for nearly half of the worlds population and are growing at much higher rates than western countries so they'll need resources, think they'll be okay on the international trade front.

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