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Quote (Djunior @ Jan 23 2023 03:26pm)
I asked you to post pre 2008 sources showing that Russia was so "toxic"

I'm waiting

BTW bolded: isn't Ukraine one of the most corrupt country in EU? Good luck with that :lol:



Ukraine - NATO membership - Crimea / Sevastopol - Russia - war

The shortest possible breakdown for dumb shits.


You didn't break down anything...Russia is 10000x more corrupt than ukraine.
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Quote (fender @ Jan 23 2023 03:40pm)
ukraine - sovereign country - internationally recognised borders - crimea belongs to ukraine

shortest possible breakdown for pootin bootlickers


Well done. Amazing so many putin fanatics are also jsp members, isn't it?
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So you searched hard (got to find something!!!) and this is what you came up with? Yeah that totally shows that "Russia was always the aggressor (your own words)" and warrants "destruction of Russia and the risk of WW3"

Sheer madness

Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 23 2023 11:13pm)
Russia constitutes a major exception in the history of humanity, as the unique country where slavery would have been practiced by people belonging to the technically dominant group on others in the same group.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hellie)


Is that also "something" that you found while searching so hard?

I can dig up shit too, let's talk about that little shit Napoleon and that he reinstated slavery after it was abolished, lol


Quote (fender @ Jan 23 2023 09:40pm)
ukraine - sovereign country - internationally recognised borders - crimea belongs to ukraine

shortest possible breakdown for pootin bootlickers


A wild WW2 German war crimes denier shows up who called the mass slaughter of innocent civilians a "silly argument"

Go lick more of that nazi boot piece of scum


Quote (said_aouita @ Jan 24 2023 08:20am)
You didn't break down anything...Russia is 10000x more corrupt than ukraine.


Ukraine is known to be one of the most corrupt nations on the planet, lol


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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 24 2023 03:27am)
It wasn't a comparison attempt, and you didn't read that report did you?


i have not read all of that. yet. in fairness there is alot there. I think i will have to read that more then once to digest all that information.

its war time. but that document outlines it has been bad for a very long time and getting worse. facts.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 24 2023 05:03am
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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 24 Jan 2023 05:06)
I most definitely have a comprehension issue when it comes to the garbled nonsense you spew, but not for the reasons you think. This thread is so full of your garbage posts and all of them are the barely readable smooth brained takes of a moron, please just go to a French speaking thread or something, you add nothing but spam.


Quote (Melatonina @ 24 Jan 2023 07:16)
Meanwhile I seriously hope you will find love one day so you can stop humiliating yourself here on a daily basis


If you have no point simply dont post and refrain personal attacks please.

Quote (Djunior @ 24 Jan 2023 11:56)
So you searched hard (got to find something!!!) and this is what you came up with? Yeah that totally shows that "Russia was always the aggressor (your own words)" and warrants "destruction of Russia and the risk of WW3"


you posted: " I asked you to post pre 2008 sources showing that Russia was so "toxic" I'm waiting"
==> I delivered and it wasn't really hard... I posted like 3 times about Yushchenko poisonning in this topic already.
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Quote (babun1024 @ Jan 23 2023 04:09pm)
Selensky's whole campaign was about reconcilation with Russian speaking Ukrainian population and averting a war with Russia. Neither Ukrainians nor Russian speaking Ukrainians wanted a war or division resulting in a civil war (they thought back then, civil war would have been the worst case scenario). As soon as he was elected, suppressing Russian speaking populance continued and was intensified by forbidding teaching or speaking Russian language in the east. At the same time, the government pushed for Nato by making joining the alliance a part of their constitution in 2019.

https://verfassungsblog.de/would-ukraine-breach-its-own-constitution-if-it-dropped-its-nato-bid/



Quote (ferdia @ Jan 23 2023 07:30pm)
no but what i mean is, its not that he was pro EU / NATO / West that got him elected, but rather he was elected on a mandate of reconciliation. sorry i was trying to help you here.



So you guys got a source to prove that claim?
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 24 2023 12:05pm)
If you have no point simply dont post and refrain personal attacks please.



you posted: " I asked you to post pre 2008 sources showing that Russia was so "toxic" I'm waiting"
==> I delivered and it wasn't really hard... I posted like 3 times about Yushchenko poisonning in this topic already.


You claimed that "Russia always was the aggressor" and "since two decades" and I asked you to post proof of that.

You replied with the poisoning of that dude which is bad, but on country level this is really petty shit that never ever warrants the "destruction of Russia" (your own words)

You've been looking real hard, I can tell because of your three consecutive posts with random shit about Russia. But you failed to find anything major otherwise you would've posted it.

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Quote (Djunior @ 24 Jan 2023 12:20)
You claimed that "Russia always was the aggressor" and "since two decades" and I asked you to post proof of that.

You replied with the poisoning of that dude which is bad, but on country level this is really petty shit that never ever warrants the "destruction of Russia" (your own words)

You've been looking real hard, I can tell because of your three consecutive posts with random shit about Russia. But you failed to find anything major otherwise you would've posted it.


You think this president poisoning is "petty shit" ?
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/12/1080205477/history-ukraine-russia
I disagree, this poisoning is totally relevant and shows what was happening if you were going against Moscow's will.
Russia's influence toward urkaine can be defined as "malign influence": Kompromat, funding myriads of opposition parties (like startups...), along with physical threats. FSB/Mafiosi methods at national levels.

To be honest i also posted about Russia being an agressor also because of the whole historical oppression background which could start during the reign of Catherine the Great (r. 1762–1796) where serfdom degenerated into slavery and spread to Ukraine. I posted about it in previous pages, if you are insterest I am sure google be your friend...

Oh... cool, a video !
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/ukraine-long-a-victim-of-russian-oppression/

/e another version with some reading ( let's hope that Applebaum isnt a nazi)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-history-of-subjugating-ukraine/

:thumbsup:

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jan 24 2023 06:06am
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You think this president poisoning is "petty shit" ?
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/12/1080205477/history-ukraine-russia
I disagree, this poisoning is totally relevant and shows what was happening if you were going against Moscow's will.
Russia's influence toward urkaine can be defined as "malign influence": Kompromat, funding myriads of opposition parties (like startups...), along with physical threats. FSB/Mafiosi methods at national levels.

To be honest i also posted about Russia being an agressor also because of the whole historical oppression background which could start during the reign of Catherine the Great (r. 1762–1796) where serfdom degenerated into slavery and spread to Ukraine. I posted about it in previous pages, if you are insterest I a sure google be your friend...

Oh... cool, a video !
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/ukraine-long-a-victim-of-russian-oppression/

:thumbsup:


So you think this warrants the "destruction of Russia"?

What if I post shit about France, what you guys did in North Africa for example and claim this warrants the destruction of France? That would be just as dumb as what you're doing here.

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Quote (Djunior @ 24 Jan 2023 13:06)
So you think this warrants the "destruction of Russia"?

What if I post shit about France, what you guys did in North Africa for example and claim this warrants the destruction of France? That would be just as dumb as what you're doing here.


The destruction of Russia ? No, who said this ? You. Destruction of its central power enventually. As a reminder the one under attack atm is Ukraine. Again.

Do not even try to insult me or to attack me because i'm french; as a reminder you are even refusing to tell us your own country.

Read this instead:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Russia
https://fr-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Moujik?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jan 24 2023 06:17am
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