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Jan 22 2023 08:22am
Quote (ofthevoid @ 22 Jan 2023 15:14)
Watching some of these mobilization videos from Ukraine is kind of disturbing tbh. People are legitimately getting kidnapped off the streets to be sent to the front. Very sad honestly, people should never be forced to go to war.

https://twitter.com/azgeopolitics/status/1617154441509052416?s=46&t=KEGqQlooBiYcrU2trrjyZg


I would first know the exact background on this video before opening it.
This said, if what you are saying is true, the guy can still try defect to join Russia or Wagner.
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Jan 22 2023 08:23am
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I would first know the exact background on this video before opening it.
This said, if what you are saying is true, the guy can still try defect to join Russia or Wagner.

They kill them. They don't want a potential traitor who they have to feed extra. Ukrainians don't take many prisoners either. Both are shit hole countries.

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Quote (babun1024 @ 22 Jan 2023 15:23)
They kill them.


Oh really.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 22 2023 03:14pm)
Watching some of these mobilization videos from Ukraine is kind of disturbing tbh. People are legitimately getting kidnapped off the streets to be sent to the front. Very sad honestly, people should never be forced to go to war.

https://twitter.com/azgeopolitics/status/1617154441509052416?s=46&t=KEGqQlooBiYcrU2trrjyZg


Ukrainian army is getting desperate. German intelligence recently reported that the Ukrainian army is losing a three digit number of soldiers daily in Bakhmut.

Mc Gregor also recently stated that Ukraine's reserve brigades were fed into the Bakhmut meat grinder and that the Ukrainian brigades lost as much as 70% of their strength by the time they got pulled out / cycled.

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Quote (Djunior @ 22 Jan 2023 15:27)
Ukrainian army is getting desperate. German intelligence recently reported that the Ukrainian army is losing a three digit number of soldiers daily in Bakhmut.

Mc Gregor also recently stated that Ukraine's reserve brigades were fed into the Bakhmut meat grinder and that the Ukrainian brigades lost as much as 70% of their strength by the time they got pulled out / cycled.


have reliable source for this bad news please ?
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Quote (Santara @ Jan 21 2023 05:39pm)

I have never had a booster, you fucking scrawn.


So you're fat. Shocker.
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Quote (Djunior @ Jan 22 2023 03:27pm)
Ukrainian army is getting desperate. German intelligence recently reported that the Ukrainian army is losing a three digit number of soldiers daily in Bakhmut.

Mc Gregor also recently stated that Ukraine's reserve brigades were fed into the Bakhmut meat grinder and that the Ukrainian brigades lost as much as 70% of their strength by the time they got pulled out / cycled.


Source?
I expect Russians to lose as much then. Attacking results in higher death toll.

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If Ukraine exploited its own gas reserves it could undercut Russia, compete with Russia, provide an alternative source of gas for Europe. And could do this very quickly owing to existing infrastructure.

If a country gets 45% of its federal budget from the sale of hydrocarbons, its not a challenge to realize anything which threatens that is an existential threat.

But again, this directly undercuts both Russia's actions and Russia's messaging. When it came to economic sanctions, to oil embargos, to Russia closing the gas tap and so on, the Russian talking point always was "the West needs our energy supplies more than we need the West as buyers. We have plenty of other options, selling to China/India/the Saudis is np for us, but you, you are the ones who will be fucked."

Also, they must have known that there is a big risk of escalation and a collapse of trade as a result of their invasion of Ukraine. Heck, the Russians themselves had been preparing the weaponization of gas supplies for 15 years. If preserving their status as Europe's favorite supplier was among their top goals, then this whole war made no sense to begin with.

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Quote (ofthevoid @ 22 Jan 2023 15:14)
Very sad honestly, people should never be forced to go to war.

Do you think drafting Americans to go to war after the attack on Pearl Harbor was unjustified?

A country getting directly attacked by a foreign military is the textbook example for what a draft is made for. If there's any scenario in which we can expect able-bodied fighting-age men to defend their country, it has to be a literal invasion like the one Ukraine is currently experiencing. Also, aren't you usually among those arguing that the West has become weak and "pussified" and that we need more nationalism/patriotism?

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 22 2023 03:27pm)
But again, this directly undercuts both Russia's actions and Russia's messaging. When it came to economic sanctions, to oil embargos, to Russia closing the gas tap and so on, the Russian talking point always was "the West needs our energy supplies more than we need the West as buyers. We have plenty of other options, selling to China/India/the Saudis is np for us, but you, you are the ones who will be fucked."

Also, they must have known that there is a big risk of escalation and a collapse of trade as a result of their invasion of Ukraine. Heck, the Russians themselves had been preparing the weaponization of gas supplies for 15 years. If preserving their status as Europe's favorite supplier was among their top goals, then this whole war made no sense to begin with.


That is possible. I think in terms of oil, Asia is equal or larger in terms of exports from Russia. For gas, it was around 75% of Russian exports that went to Europe pre-war.
https://www.russiamatters.org/blog/numbers-where-do-russias-energy-exports-go



I also believe there was a level of miscalculation on Putin's part. I don't think he expected the scale of sanctions/sacrifice the EU was willing to impose and absorb.
Likewise I don't think Russia and its military expected such a unified response in terms of supporting Ukraine; Something which is now in the balance.

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