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May 26 2020 11:38am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 26 2020 12:33pm)
and justification for the rough treatment seems to be he wouldn't comply and get in the cop car. so they put a knee on his neck, because that makes total sense....


And shortly into the video the cop is telling him to get up and get in the car, and he's saying he can't because they're holding him down. I don't doubt that the preceding 10 minutes will show him struggling with them and resisting arrest enough to tick them off, but when you kill someone because you're mad at them that doesn't absolve guilt, that ratchets it up from manslaughter to murder
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May 26 2020 11:42am
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And shortly into the video the cop is telling him to get up and get in the car, and he's saying he can't because they're holding him down. I don't doubt that the preceding 10 minutes will show him struggling with them and resisting arrest enough to tick them off, but when you kill someone because you're mad at them that doesn't absolve guilt, that ratchets it up from manslaughter to murder


cops have for too long exploited the whole "you were squirming, and i know it's because we had 4 people forcing your body into all sorts of uncomfortable pretzel positions against pavement for 10+ minutes, but that's resisting. sorry i just write tickets not laws" bullshit. if you have a 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 advantage on an unarmed man and you can't peacefully cuff and take him down town you're a pussy cop who needs a gun or taser against an unarmed man. we need more ongoing training of jujitsu, krav maga, or something. these idiots have less laws on legal restraints than my wife does for restraining 3-4 year old children. she's now down the only legal realistic option being holding a bean bag chair between her and the violent child until they punch themselves out.
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May 26 2020 11:48am
great we have another “well he was ‘resisting’ arrest 1 vs 3 so we had to kill him” cop situation -_-
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May 26 2020 11:52am
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cops have for too long exploited the whole "you were squirming, and i know it's because we had 4 people forcing your body into all sorts of uncomfortable pretzel positions against pavement for 10+ minutes, but that's resisting. sorry i just write tickets not laws" bullshit. if you have a 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 advantage on an unarmed man and you can't peacefully cuff and take him down town you're a pussy cop who needs a gun or taser against an unarmed man. we need more ongoing training of jujitsu, krav maga, or something. these idiots have less laws on legal restraints than my wife does for restraining 3-4 year old children. she's now down the only legal realistic option being holding a bean bag chair between her and the violent child until they punch themselves out.


We use NAPPI and its pretty effective.

We had a psychotic amateur boxer who was a challenge recently. I imagine watching him get restrained was like seeing the statue of the guy throwing babies off of him. We had a giant MMA fighter who said "you better bring the whole hospital "...we just let that dude go lol. That was a long time ago on that one.

Nursing homes can't go hands on in behavior units, its insane. We just hold people down and give them shots, strap them to the bed. Night night.

Kids suck. They will just bite you. Little shits. Want to clobber them when you feel the teeth. Adults don't bite....even grossly psychotic people won't bite you. They will spit and thats when the tone changes.

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We use NAPPI and its pretty effective.

We had a psychotic amateur boxer who was a challenge recently. I imagine watching him get restrained was like seeing the statue of the guy throwing babies off of him. We had a giant MMA fighter who said "you better bring the whole hospital "...we just let that dude go lol. That was a long time ago on that one.

Nursing homes can't go hands on in behavior units, its insane. We just hold people down and give them shots, strap them to the bed. Night night.


im starting to think tranq guns might be the best option for these pussy ass cops these days.

last year my wife's legs looked like a Holstein cow. she had a very violent 4 year old who just loved swinging at random times....

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May 26 2020 12:02pm
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im starting to think tranq guns might be the best option for these pussy ass cops these days.

last year my wife's legs looked like a Holstein cow. she had a very violent 4 year old who just loved swinging at random times....


Great thing about working with kids and seniors is they can't punch real hard.

Gonna edit this to avoid a derail.

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im starting to think tranq guns might be the best option for these pussy ass cops these days.

last year my wife's legs looked like a Holstein cow. she had a very violent 4 year old who just loved swinging at random times....


its always struck me that the development of weapons technology centering on warfare has given us extremely advanced and reliable lethal weapons, but nonlethal force has been underdeveloped. And I guess the fact is that killing people is a whole lot easier than subduing them safely, so its nothing you can develop easily. Tranquilizer guns, net guns, tasers, you name it, either its ineffective or fatal and there's no reliable goldilocks setting. Human bodies don't have off switches, being unable to fight back usually means being dead or brain damaged.
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May 26 2020 12:05pm
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its always struck me that the development of weapons technology centering on warfare has given us extremely advanced and reliable lethal weapons, but nonlethal force has been underdeveloped. And I guess the fact is that killing people is a whole lot easier than subduing them safely, so its nothing you can develop easily. Tranquilizer guns, net guns, tasers, you name it, either its ineffective or fatal and there's no reliable goldilocks setting. Human bodies don't have off switches, being unable to fight back usually means being dead or brain damaged.


Lets arm cops with bolos lol.

You're right.
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May 26 2020 12:12pm
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Lets arm cops with bolos lol.

You're right.


>throw bolos
>it wraps around their windpipe, or trips their legs and their head hits a sidewalk

for real though I can't imagine any really reliable tool to disable someone safely that isn't stuck firmly in the realm of science fiction right now. Maybe someone needs to develop the minority report spider robots and make them scan someone's retina for ID for a medical history before injecting them with an appropriate dose of sedative
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May 26 2020 12:13pm
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its always struck me that the development of weapons technology centering on warfare has given us extremely advanced and reliable lethal weapons, but nonlethal force has been underdeveloped. And I guess the fact is that killing people is a whole lot easier than subduing them safely, so its nothing you can develop easily. Tranquilizer guns, net guns, tasers, you name it, either its ineffective or fatal and there's no reliable goldilocks setting. Human bodies don't have off switches, being unable to fight back usually means being dead or brain damaged.


im of the opinion that any black belt in BJJ can't find any issues subduing someone that isnt also a near black belt of black belt. ive been put into a pretzel by 150 lb old guys several times. i'd need 30 years training to even begin to use my stength advantage. but if u had 2 BJJ black belt cops no person could resist arrest. training in a martial art that involves rolling should be required for all cops, tax payer can even foot the bill. its just embarrassing to see guns pulled on an unarmed man in the USA and then see shit in thailand where a drawn knife guy gets manhandled 1 on 1.

Quote (Goomshill @ May 26 2020 01:12pm)
>throw bolos
>it wraps around their windpipe


lol'd hard here

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