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Not only are unemployment statistics misleading due to the omission of those leaving the workforce permanently, it doesn't indicate the quality of jobs that are being created.

Most of the new jobs are low skilled like those in retail.


I'm sure you have a reputable link for this exciting information. :/




/e Yang's theory on how to pay for this UBI, is to raise everyone's taxes by 15%, including the biggies like Amazon. In other words take away their deductions, and expect them to stay in the US.

So... you (the average person) pay 50% of your income in taxes...and get $1000/month back. Sounds just like another Obama plan. Here's the world, and there's no one to pay for it.



/e So, let's say you make $80,000 a year, you give $40,000 in taxes and get $12,000/year back. Seems like a net loss of $28,000/ year. If you think you can't afford college, healthcare, etc., now, when you only pay ~ 33% in taxes... well I've got news for you.


His plan assumes the giant companies will just agree to this for everyone's well being. They won't. They'll move out of the US. They can afford to do things like that.

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Why are you so obsessed with me and MY viewpoints?

$1000/month for only half of the US is $150 billion dollars/month. and $1.8 trillion /year.



/e Where does that money come from. Oh yeah, he wants medicare for all as well.


It replaces existing benefits for a start, so that number is drastically lower.
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It replaces existing benefits for a start, so that number is drastically lower.




No, that number is just for the $1000/month crap. I haven't EVEN begun to calculate what giving EVERYONE Medicare will cost.



/e Side note: He also wants to legalize marijuana (which is cool) and opiates (which isn't). No one will even notice his BS when they all on heroin. :/

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No, that number is just for the $1000/month crap. I haven't EVEN begun to calculate what giving EVERYONE Medicare will cost.


A lot less than the current system.
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A lot less than the current system.




Oh, now that I see your calculations, I completely understand. :/
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Oh, now that I see your calculations, I completely understand. :/


You have one entity with enormous bargaining power doing all the negotiations that has the power of regulation behind it.
Next step is allowing generics.
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You have one entity with enormous bargaining power doing all the negotiations that has the power of regulation behind it.
Next step is allowing generics.




I'll say it really slowly...

S O C I A L I S M--D O E S N ' T--W O R K.

/e P.S. Vocabulary is NOT calculations.





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Quote (Ghot @ Apr 22 2019 09:00pm)
I'll say it really slowly...

S O C I A L I S M--D O E S N ' T--W O R K.

/e P.S. Vocabulary is NOT calculations.



https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mrz042019dAPR20190419024519.jpg


What the hell does healthcare have to do with socialism?
I think you have no idea what the word even means.
I literally live in a country with free healthcare for all that ranks consistently above yours in life quality.

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What the hell does healthcare have to do with socialism?
I think you have no idea what the word even means.
I literally live in a country with free healthcare for all that ranks consistently above yours in life quality.




Obamacare was a failure. It was enacted without a means to pay for it.

In smaller countries... very high taxes, in a capitalist system with a welfare state... seems to work. On a very short scale so far.
If you have actual NUMBERS showing how to make it work for 327 million people, all at the same time. I'm all ears.

Australia can exist, with it's systems, BECAUSE the US exists. The $700 billion a year we spend on the military helps to keep Australia... not Chinese.



/e As it stands, we're all probably gonna lose to the Chinese... eventually.

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Quote (Ghot @ Apr 22 2019 09:09pm)
Obamacare was a failure. It was enacted without a means to pay for it.

In smaller countries... very high taxes, in a capitalist system with a welfare state... seems to work. On a very short scale so far.
If you have actual NUMBERS showing how to make it work for 327 million people, all at the same time. I'm all ears.

Australia can exist, with it's systems, BECAUSE the US exists. The $700 billion a year we spend on the military helps to keep Australia... not Chinese.


Lol dumbest thing i ever read.
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