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Jan 17 2023 05:04pm
"Germany donating Greta Thunberg to Ukraine in dramatic escalation" -AP
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Jan 17 2023 10:41pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 17 2023 11:54pm)
man Greta Thunberg got OWNED ! :o


Rekt :o

The Greens got rekt too and are falling in line. Germany needs that shitty lignite (280M ton) to substitute for that cheap and clean (50% less CO2) Russian gas, so riot police carry away the little gnome that stood in their way.




Quote (fender @ Jan 17 2023 11:53pm)
i already inb4'd pootin bootlickers like yourself trying to deflect from russia continuing to murder civilians, you didn't have to make it THAT obvious. xD



Let me guess, Georgia and Kazakhstan next on your wish list?
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Well, she's ugly. I mean, I'd do her.
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Jan 18 2023 03:09am
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Well, she's ugly. I mean, I'd do her.


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Jan 18 2023 03:17am
She's already twenty, c'mon. Perfect time to stop licking icicles in cold unwelcoming Norway and move on to something serious and hot.
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Jan 18 2023 04:16am
The Ukrainian minister of internal affairs just got killed in a helicopter crash over Kyiv suburbs. The helicopter came down over a residential area and hit a kindergarten, killing 18 people in total, including 3 children.

The cause is not known yet, but this seems like a targetted attack if you ask me. I really doubt that a Russian missile which was on the way to some infrastructure object randomly happened to strike this helicopter which was carrying a high-ranking member of Ukraine's government...

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Jan 18 2023 04:29am
Hey leave Greta alone, she is doing her bit to help our children and their children's inheritance. If anyone needs to be bashed its the many climate change deniers (of which there are so many) and the politicians (again, many) that just dont give a damn and want to earn money at the expense of our species future.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 18 2023 10:16am)
The Ukrainian minister of internal affairs just got killed in a helicopter crash over Kyiv suburbs. The helicopter came down over a residential area and hit a kindergarten, killing 18 people in total, including 3 children.

The cause is not known yet.


it is difficult to determine facts relating to alot of current events from the warzone. some things it could take months/years/decades before we have a full picture, regardless of what is said today. regardless of whether mechanical failure, shot down or whatever, RIP.

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Jan 18 2023 04:50am
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it is difficult to determine facts relating to alot of current events from the warzone. some things it could take months/years/decades before we have a full picture, regardless of what is said today. regardless of whether mechanical failure, shot down or whatever, RIP.


Apparently there are videos circulating on social media, showing the helicopter a few minutes before its crash flying very low in thick fog... so maybe it was an accident, caused by bad weather and a mistake by the pilot.
Also, it is now reported that not just the Minister of Internal Affairs was on board and died, but also his deputy minister as well as the state secretary. Kinda reckless to have the top 3 leaders of a department on the same flight during wartime.

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Jan 18 2023 05:20am
On May 29, 2018, an agreement was signed in Paris between the governments of Ukraine and France on official support for the creation of a unified system of aviation security and protection in Ukraine.

The document was signed on behalf of the Government of Ukraine by Interior Minister Arsen Avakov and State Secretary of the French Ministry of Economy and Finance Delphine Jeni-Stefan.

In general, the reported figure for the total cost of the agreement of 551-555 million euros for 55 helicopters, including 21 H225s, looks very low, since, for example, the cost of one new H225 Super Puma helicopter in commercial deliveries ranges from 21 million to 28 million euros.

This is due to the fact that, according to French sources, a significant part of the helicopters is supposed to be delivered not new, but "as is".

In particular, the well-known French defense insider journalist Michel Cabirol in the article "L'Ukraine, l'eldorado d'Airbus Helicopters à l'est" in the newspaper "La Tribune" reports that, in relation to the H225 helicopters planned for delivery to Ukraine under this agreement, we are talking about machines decommissioned by the international (Canadian) company CHC Helicopter after the H225 disaster in the North Sea on April 29, 2016 and the subsequent transition of the SNA on May 5, 2016 under the protection of the 11th chapter of the US bankruptcy law.

The SNA was forced to cease operation of all helicopters it used on a leasing basis, including the entire fleet of its H225s, which are actually owned by the French leasing company Parilease (owned by BNP Paribas).

After the crash in April 2016, the SNS had 39 H225 helicopters.

The SNS H225 disaster in the North Sea off the Norwegian coast on April 29, 2016 with the death of 13 people due to a main rotor separation, which revealed problems with the reliability of the main rotor gearbox of the entire Super Puma family of helicopters, led to long-term bans on the flights of the H225 and AS332L2 helicopters, lasting until the summer or the end of 2017. Although the bans have now been lifted, the situation has led to the sale of their H225 helicopters by a number of offshore companies, and the book value of even very new these machines by the end of 2017 was estimated at only $4 million (five times lower than before the flight ban story).

Now (article was written in 2018), apparently, Ukraine has found a buyer for most of the non-flying fleet of H225 helicopters of the SNS company, apparently also being sold at "bargain prices".

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Jan 18 2023 05:21am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 18 2023 10:50am)
Apparently there are videos circulating on social media, showing the helicopter a few minutes before its crash flying very low in thick fog... so maybe it was an accident, caused by bad weather and a mistake by the pilot.
Also, it is now reported that not just the Minister of Internal Affairs was on board and died, but also his deputy minister as well as the state secretary. Kinda reckless to have the top 3 leaders of a department on the same flight during wartime.


Very reckless. Reminds me of this incident - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Mull_of_Kintyre_Chinook_crash

"Among the passengers were almost all the United Kingdom's senior Northern Ireland intelligence experts"



Quote (Norlander @ Jan 18 2023 06:25am)
https://i.imgur.com/YH4wzDv.jpg

Well, she's ugly. I mean, I'd do her.


You into woman that look like kids? Thats fucked up
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