Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 15 2023 12:26pm)

Probably, but I think there would be some incentive for it if Russia ends up on the losing side of this conflict somehow. Losing = being completely pushed out of Ukraine and losing access to black sea + unable to stop western expansion and militarization of Ukraine.

At that point Russias future will be looking quite bleak and their economy would be in ruins I would think. Nalvany starts looking like a good option because his election would mean Russia could get back into trade deals with Europe and probably face less punitive measures for the invasion.

Mostly a joke but I could see Navalny being a Russian Lula lol

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 16 2023 09:28am)

I don't understand what "losing access to the Black Sea" means. Are you implying that somehow because of this war Russia will actually cede Russian territory or?

Quote (ownyaah @ Jan 15 2023 04:06pm)

https://i.imgur.com/Osl7YQN.png

Throwback #552121

All things considered, this war has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the amount of propaganda liberal/democratic countries push is far more extensive than totalitarianists. Ukraine war could be on par with stalin/hitler era propaganda

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 16 2023 01:38pm)

Nope, was joking about the latest "Putin will be dead, ousted or in South America" claim

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 16 2023 07:47pm)

"amount of propaganda liberal/democratic countries push is far more extensive than totalitarianists."

That is absurd, even by definition. :rofl:
Russian military was telling its own recruits that Poland had invaded Ukraine/Russia.

Both "sides" are guilty of misinformation/propaganda.



Which claim?

Quote (ownyaah @ Jan 16 2023 05:45pm)

No doubt russian media and even mod peddles propaganda, but if we compare to the amount pushed by West/Ukraine it would be like comparing a river to a sea. This could however be because of means rather than ideology, but could also be because of ideology.

Bellincat was saying Russia has enough ammunition for 2 weeks in February.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 16 2023 08:48pm)

"amount pushed by West/Ukraine it would be like comparing a river to a sea"

That is absurd. Perhaps in literal terms, the "amount" would be more; But in terms of the falseness, the Kremlin takes the world championship belt.

Quote (ownyaah @ Jan 16 2023 05:49pm)

Kremlin propaganda has been pretty dogshit, their PR has been super low tier.

There isn´t even a competition

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 16 2023 08:50pm)

In terms of falseness, they still take the belt.

Quote (ownyaah @ Jan 16 2023 05:54pm)

Falseness would be when they peddled things like the recent 400-kill rocket attack that hit nothing, or when they did "sign of goodwill", the azov stories but then released them all in exchange-trades, probably the nuke-story is the biggest because lets face it if ukraine actually was making a nuke the russians would´ve hit kiev with 50 nukes instantly.

Still think ukraine takes the belt with mythical story telling

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 16 2023 08:59pm)

We can disagree.

The debate on Russia TV about whether Zelensky was the antichrist or a small demon sticks in my mind.
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-tv-debates-whether-zelensky-antichrist-small-demon-1764391

Reality for Russians is whatever the Kremlin decides.