this should make you think
Bill Gates on GMO's in Vaccines
https://www.bitchute.com/video/eHz5NPc8j0qM/

what's wrong about that?

Theres 200 year old humans?

does it hurt when they stick you with the needle? Important question pls respond

yes he thinks modern medicine has shortened people life spans..
was a idiot rabbit hole I got out of quick.
tea tree oil! make you live to 300 years old

I agree with him to an extent, but there's a clear risk of pretending that both sides are equally bad here. COVID deniers/minimizers have done exponentially more damage than those who perhaps took it too seriously. Humans are stupid, so obviously in the middle of a pandemic, it's better that people think it's more deadly than it is, rather than less deadly. Otherwise, the mitigation efforts will not happen. I don't want experts lying to us, but when saying that it's not deadly for people under a certain age, you need to qualify that statement with the reality about the effects of your non-mitigation behavior.

We've lost 570,000 Americans. I see a lot of right-wingers scoff at the number, saying that these people were elderly, obese, already sick, and it's pretty demented to look at elderly or unhealthy/sick people as somehow disposable. These people had years, in many cases decades, of life ahead of them. Now they are gone, partly because some couldn't wear a mask, or stay out of the bars, or get vaccinated. The guy wearing a mask outdoors with nobody around was not behaving rationally, and he also was not contributing to the death count.

This post was edited by IceMage on Apr 26 2021 03:15pm

You currently have places that are in full lockdowns like Canada like parts of Europe that have these types of measures & much more aggressive measures that are doing exponentially worse than places like Texas or Florida where people can go out to eat, can go to the beach and whatever.

That's where your point breaks down. I've yet to see data that shows lockdowns worked, we're actually seeing the opposite, even the CDC was recommending schools reopen months ago, but that's still not the case in many parts of our country or Canada. As Maher said, it seems like people being outside getting exercise, vitamin D, is one of the best ways to fight this disease, that's my perspective. Go get vaccinated, and go on with your life.

As a side note, pretty much everyone I know has gained weight this last year. I gained like 8 pounds. We joke around about putting on the Covid-20.

What are the long-term repercussions of forcing people indoors, closing down gyms & so on? 300,000 die of obesity annually, and you have millions of deaths that in one way or another are impacted by obesity (things like heart disease, diabetes, even covid). Why are we pretending that having people live such lifestyles is not an issue?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 26 2021 03:39pm

I suppose I could do some researching to rebut your point about lockdowns, but just from a common sense perspective with a respiratory disease like COVID, how in the world is having less people together in close quarters supposed to be detrimental to containing the virus? Or wearing masks?

We've known for a while that the virus doesn't spread much outdoors, so that's not really the point here. There's plenty of people who don't mask indoors because they think the virus is a hoax. Bars, restaurants, campaign rallies without mask requirements are where this thing can spread.

We're at the point where people are getting vaccinated and case levels are lowering, so it's an opening for people to say "what was the big deal guys, i've been living my life the same all along", as if it's making a coherent point.

This post was edited by IceMage on Apr 26 2021 03:39pm

Forgot to address schools. When the data was available that schools that took mitigation efforts were not a source of significant spread, they should've reopened. I believe that. But that's because evidence came out showing it to be so.

There's always tradeoffs. Any outside restrictions were more problematic than inside. But I believe the suicide rate went down. And temporary restrictions which lead to weight gain is probably a tradeoff worthwhile when this pandemic could've killed millions. My guess is the people who die every year from obesity won't tick up that much in the future(just a guess, I'm not an expert).

I'm not defending needless restrictions from the government. DeSantis keeping beaches open doesn't appear to have been much of a bad thing. I'm saying that the deniers/minimizers, both in government and as citizens, did far more harm than those who played it too safe.