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Jan 12 2023 02:03pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 12 2023 03:49pm)
I'll even join the black mirror circle jerk.
Man with largest army on the continent and largest stockpile of nuclear weapons trips and falls over. Feels threatened. Invades gravity.

Lets go you expansionist NATO dogs.


In the future you may want to avoid quote tweeting me to say how wrong I am if you don't want to end up dodging so hard you make embarrassing posts like this.

Big OOOOF buddy, big oof.
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Jan 12 2023 02:17pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jan 12 2023 07:53pm)
You're moving around in an endless Putin bad circle jerk and your refusal to even look at official sources is proof of that.

I was often wondering if you didn't understand the stuff that was linked but it now makes sense.

You're just a hopeless case, brainwashed by MSM propaganda and all you're doing is supporting further escalations.

Talking about being emotional :lol:


Excellent narrative, but as threadbare as ever.

Your entire argument was based on a delusional belief that Russia actually wanted to negotiate.
No amount of attacking me can absolve you of that delusion.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 12 2023 08:03pm)
In the future you may want to avoid quote tweeting me to say how wrong I am if you don't want to end up dodging so hard you make embarrassing posts like this.

Big OOOOF buddy, big oof.


Pathetic narrative pushing.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jan 12 2023 02:18pm
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Jan 12 2023 02:23pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 12 2023 09:17pm)
Excellent narrative, but as threadbare as ever.

Your entire argument was based on a delusional belief that Russia actually wanted to negotiate.
No amount of attacking me can absolve you of that delusion.


The fact of the matter is that negotiations were proposed before the conflict. It cannot be denied.

Your claim that Russia didn't want to (properly) negotiate was never proven because NATO was unwilling to start negotiations.

Al you're left with is your opinion that Russia didn't want to negotiate, real solid point to make in a debate, LOL


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Jan 12 2023 02:24pm
reminder, if you cant agree on a point, dont die on the hill about it. this applies to everyone, including myself.
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Jan 12 2023 02:30pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jan 12 2023 08:23pm)
The fact of the matter is that negotiations were proposed before the conflict. It cannot be denied.

Your claim that Russia didn't want to (properly) negotiate was never proven because NATO was unwilling to start negotiations.

Al you're left with is your opinion that Russia didn't want to negotiate, real solid point to make in a debate, LOL


Nobody is denying negotiations were proposed. My opinion is Russia had no intention of negotiating, hence the absurd demands.
Believing the invasion of Ukraine was justified because NATO refused to accept Russia's absurd demands, is utter delusion.

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reminder, if you cant agree on a point, dont die on the hill about it. this applies to everyone, including myself.


It serves a purpose to call out the same recycled justifications of the invasion. The fact its even still a debate is a testament to mental illness.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jan 12 2023 02:35pm
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Jan 12 2023 02:39pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 13 Jan 2023 04:30)
Nobody is denying negotiations were proposed. My opinion is Russia had no intention of negotiating, hence the absurd demands.
Believing the invasion of Ukraine was justified because NATO refused to accept Russia's absurd demands, is utter delusion.


Believing that Russia wouldn't react being completely surrounded once Ukraine join NATO or pivot to the West is pretty much a delusion as well.

All the historical mistake crap that Putin says is all BS. He who conquers rules.

But if you are going to choke Russia at the black sea. This is what you get.

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Jan 12 2023 02:43pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 12 2023 04:17pm)
Excellent narrative, but as threadbare as ever.

Your entire argument was based on a delusional belief that Russia actually wanted to negotiate.
No amount of attacking me can absolve you of that delusion.



Pathetic narrative pushing.


You'd think it would be easier to disprove then.

Typical prox1m1ty, can't make an argument so he results to insults, sad :(

Should change your pic to wee Jimmie Krankie saying "Freedom? Maybe next year!" Lol
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Jan 12 2023 02:45pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 12 2023 04:30pm)
Nobody is denying negotiations were proposed. My opinion is Russia had no intention of negotiating, hence the absurd demands.
Believing the invasion of Ukraine was justified because NATO refused to accept Russia's absurd demands, is utter delusion.



It serves a purpose to call out the same recycled justifications of the invasion. The fact its even still a debate is a testament to mental illness.


Are all scots this angry toward people who read or is it a personal thing?
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Jan 12 2023 03:05pm
Quote (Norlander @ Jan 12 2023 01:43pm)
Meanwhile in Krasnoyarsk oblast, Russia. -73°C

https://i.imgur.com/1Bmgt7B.jpg


Laughed the other day with pundits made arguments that winter would favor Ukrainian forces. Those Siberian RU already climate adapted to the worst conditions Ukraine has.
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Jan 12 2023 03:06pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 12 2023 08:43pm)
You'd think it would be easier to disprove then.

Typical prox1m1ty, can't make an argument so he results to insults, sad :(

Should change your pic to wee Jimmie Krankie saying "Freedom? Maybe next year!" Lol


Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 12 2023 08:45pm)
Are all scots this angry toward people who read or is it a personal thing?


Your a nothing poster :rofl:

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jan 12 2023 08:39pm)
Believing that Russia wouldn't react being completely surrounded once Ukraine join NATO or pivot to the West is pretty much a delusion as well.

All the historical mistake crap that Putin says is all BS. He who conquers rules.

But if you are going to choke Russia at the black sea. This is what you get.


I don't believe that, although its an absurd statement. "once Ukraine join NATO" is a total speculative fallacy.
I actually might agree with what your suggesting to an extent. My issue is with the false justification of the invasion as a reaction to being threatened. When its purely imperialism.

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