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Did they migrate from legs?
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Jan 12 2023 11:59am
Quote (Djunior @ Jan 12 2023 10:24am)
That will totally not be an escalation and will work out fine, of course. (This message was approved by your local MSM outlet :rolleyes: )


muh escalations
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 12 2023 05:27pm)
The return of the rug: could Macron's hairy chest start a new fashion

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well he does dress well.
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Jan 12 2023 12:26pm
Found a good article by Huffpost on the US militaries totally non threatening actions around the world that no leader in their right mind would ever feel threatened by.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-military-bases_b_1676006/amp

Ah well it's not like the US government took a specific interest in Ukraine before there was a coup there which just so happened to install a more western friendly government.

https://carnegieendowment.org/2004/12/21/meddling-in-ukraine-democracy-is-not-american-plot-pub-16292

Oh...well that still doesn't excuse Putins illegal invasion! Russia didn't even try to warn the west that this was a red line for them or that they considered it a threat and a security risk.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/thestrategybridge.org/the-bridge/2016/12/16/the-myth-of-russian-aggression-and-nato-expansion%3fformat=amp

It's amazing how deep Russian propaganda goes! They must have been planning this forever
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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 12 2023 06:26pm)
Found a good article by Huffpost on the US militaries totally non threatening actions around the world that no leader in their right mind would ever feel threatened by.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-military-bases_b_1676006/amp

Ah well it's not like the US government took a specific interest in Ukraine before there was a coup there which just so happened to install a more western friendly government.

https://carnegieendowment.org/2004/12/21/meddling-in-ukraine-democracy-is-not-american-plot-pub-16292

Oh...well that still doesn't excuse Putins illegal invasion! Russia didn't even try to warn the west that this was a red line for them or that they considered it a threat and a security risk.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/thestrategybridge.org/the-bridge/2016/12/16/the-myth-of-russian-aggression-and-nato-expansion%3fformat=amp

It's amazing how deep Russian propaganda goes! They must have been planning this forever


Myth of Russian aggression? Tell that to Chechens, Georgians or Ukrainians.

Damn your balls deep. How do Putin's boots taste?
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Jan 12 2023 12:54pm
Especially Chechens as they were a different country

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 12 2023 02:43pm)
Myth of Russian aggression? Tell that to Chechens, Georgians or Ukrainians.

Damn your balls deep. How do Putin's boots taste?


You should read the article before getting upset about the title of it, because you obviously didn't lol.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 12 2023 06:43pm)
Myth of Russian aggression? Tell that to Chechens, Georgians or Ukrainians.

Damn your balls deep. How do Putin's boots taste?


did you read those links? they were quite fair i feel.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 12 2023 06:26pm)
Found a good article by Huffpost on the US militaries totally non threatening actions around the world that no leader in their right mind would ever feel threatened by.



Ah well it's not like the US government took a specific interest in Ukraine before there was a coup there which just so happened to install a more western friendly government.



Oh...well that still doesn't excuse Putins illegal invasion! Russia didn't even try to warn the west that this was a red line for them or that they considered it a threat and a security risk.



It's amazing how deep Russian propaganda goes! They must have been planning this forever


this was a very good contribution to the topic, thank you (ofc i had to remove the links zzz) :)

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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 12 2023 12:56pm)
You should read the article before getting upset about the title of it, because you obviously didn't lol.


Pretty good articles. The last one about myth of aggressive was a bunch of bullshit IMO, but well put together. The conclusion undermines it. The notion that Russia would be peaceful if not for NATO is laughable. NATO just the flavor of day enemy excuse for their behavior and aggression.

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Quote (RedFromWinter @ Jan 12 2023 03:02pm)
Pretty good articles. The last one about myth of aggressive was a bunch of bullshit IMO, but well put together. The conclusion undermines it. The notion that Russia would be peaceful if not for NATO is laughable. NATO just the flavor of day enemy excuse for their behavior and aggression.


Maybe so, but I think it lays out the Russian perspective on US/NATO/The West quite well. I posted them less to say "look russia is good!" And more so to point out that they had very legitimate reasons to view western expansion as a threat.

The main reason for the last article was that it laid out that Russia clearly tried diplomatic means of solving the situation before resulting to military means.

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Jan 12 2023 01:24pm
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