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Cant be a victim of covid vaccine myocarditis, he isnt young and healthy enough


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Head of the Investigative Committee of Russia Alexander Bastrykin instructed to open a criminal case against actor Arthur Smolyaninov. The actor opposes the Russian invasion of Ukraine and in a recent interview said that he could fight on the side of the Ukrainian army.

Source: BBC

https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-64208389

Public condemnation did not take long

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Jan 10 2023 10:42am
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Then it's even less
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Jan 10 2023 11:31am
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Quote (Norlander @ 10 Jan 2023 17:53)
Then it's even less


I am sorry to inform you that you are spreading false information (unvoluntary or because it fits with your personal beliefs? Doesnt matter)

Jonas Ohman's corrected himself :

"When it says '30% reaches the frontline', it refers to Blue/Yellow's general assessment of the effectiveness of the Western aid effort at that time. In no way is it suggested that the aid is “sold on the black market” or “stolen”.

Asked by CheckNews, Jonas Ohman also points out that this quote is dated, because it was formulated at the beginning of May: "I was not talking about the fact [that weapons] could be stolen or disappear, but about speed, logistics, distribution, efficiency and priority. Material may not arrive where it is supposed to go. That is to say that units less exposed than those at the front (which have priority), take it to use it. But I am not suggesting that these weapons are transported on a black market. If such traffic existed, we would see it. And we have no sign of that."

The day after the aid worker's denial, US television removed his report and his tweets promoting it. The chain explains: “Since [his April statement], Mr. Ohman says that deliveries have improved.”



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I am sorry to inform you that you are spreading false information (unvoluntary or because it fits with your personal beliefs? Doesnt matter)

Jonas Ohman's corrected himself :

"When it says '30% reaches the frontline', it refers to Blue/Yellow's general assessment of the effectiveness of the Western aid effort at that time. In no way is it suggested that the aid is “sold on the black market” or “stolen”.

Asked by CheckNews, Jonas Ohman also points out that this quote is dated, because it was formulated at the beginning of May: "I was not talking about the fact [that weapons] could be stolen or disappear, but about speed, logistics, distribution, efficiency and priority. Material may not arrive where it is supposed to go. That is to say that units less exposed than those at the front (which have priority), take it to use it. But I am not suggesting that these weapons are transported on a black market. If such traffic existed, we would see it. And we have no sign of that."

The day after the aid worker's denial, US television removed his report and his tweets promoting it. The chain explains: “Since [his April statement], Mr. Ohman says that deliveries have improved.”


Well I'm sorry to inform YOU that weapons that are supposed to be in Ukraine are showing up elsewhere, for example in Nigeria where Boko Haram terrorists are active.

The Nigerian president said this in November last year https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/nigeria-warns-that-weapons-used-in-ukraine-war-are-%C2%ABleaking%C2%BB-into-lake-chad-basin/ar-AA14JdoR
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Jan 10 2023 11:57am
In reality that initial quote was probably accurate and CBS and the guy got 'the talk' so subsequently it was framed in a way to say no we didn't actually mean xyz.

Idk how accurate 30% is now, but it takes more faith to think all of that money (tens of billions) is actually fully reaching it's intended destination. There's skimming happening at so many levels. Our law makers know it but it's just the reality on the ground with no way around it.

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Jan 10 2023 11:59am
Quote (Djunior @ 11 Jan 2023 01:57)
Well I'm sorry to inform YOU that weapons that are supposed to be in Ukraine are showing up elsewhere, for example in Nigeria where Boko Haram terrorists are active.

The Nigerian president said this in November last year https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/nigeria-warns-that-weapons-used-in-ukraine-war-are-%C2%ABleaking%C2%BB-into-lake-chad-basin/ar-AA14JdoR


I can't wait to see Germany send their Leopard tanks.
Ukraine already gotten their HIMARS and Javelins.

Let's see in a couple of years do the Chinese have a reversed engineered versions of those.
:lol:

Maybe a better improved version. ^_^
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Jan 10 2023 12:00pm
i was going to quote one of you but its easier to say

(looking at the above posts)

this is all normal. i.e. aid/funds/weapons wont always reach their intended targets.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jan 10 2023 05:59pm)
I can't wait to see Germany send their Leopard tanks.
Ukraine already gotten their HIMARS and Javelins.

Let's see in a couple of years do the Chinese have a reversed engineered versions of those.
:lol:

Maybe a better improved version. ^_^


your post is wrong. you said the word "maybe" :)

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 10 2023 12:00pm
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Quote (ferdia @ 11 Jan 2023 02:00)
i was going to quote one of you but its easier to say

(looking at the above posts)

this is all normal. i.e. aid/funds/weapons wont always reach their intended targets.



your post is wrong. you said the word "maybe" :)


:lol: I want to give the impression that they might not be smart enough to make an improved version.
Since most people think they are not capable of doing it.

But given the Chinese, I am sure they would have gotten some samples from Ukraine.
Please note, as much as this war is ongoing and the Chinese doesn't take sides. They have very in-dept and good relationship with a lot of Ukrainians.
I wouldn't be surprised 10s of millions of USD worth of USDT coins will make somethings work.

:rofl:
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