https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/12/14/vast-majority-of-europeans-continue-to-approve-eus-support-for-ukraine-survey-finds

Across all member states, those backing the EU's support for Ukraine were in the majority, with countries like Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, Portugal and Denmark reporting the highest percentage of support at respectively 97, 95, 93 and 92 per cent.
In total, across the EU, some 74 per cent of citizens said they approve of the Union's backing of Kyiv since February 24, according to the survey conducted between October 12 and November 7 involving 26,443 respondents.




This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jan 8 2023 07:21am

Just more escalations? That's surely going to work!

And how many Ukrainian soldiers have lost their lives? Or are you in favor of only mentioning Ukrainian civilians killed (I think I know the answer, lol)

The costs for EU are astronomical when you add everything up, inflation / aid to Ukraine / energy crisis / Ukrainian refugees and so on.

You're trying hard to present something positive but there's no positive outlook at all, not in the short term at least.

XD

random survey on 200 people is sure representing the majority of europeans's opinion on the war support lmao

has to be a McKinsey tactic

I think we can estimate the same if not more Ukrainian soldiers have been killed.
Please re-read your second sentence/question it doesn't appear to make sense?



There are pressures in Europe that surpass the effects of the war in Ukraine. The pandemic was far, far more costly.
The EU will more than cope, there are 4 EU countries with higher gross domestic product than Russia itself, and more countries close to Russia, Turkey for example.

The counter to your argument of cost. Is that it would be far more costly in the long run. To embolden aggressor states by capitulating in Ukraine. Not to mention the cost of Moscow monopolizing the control of wheat production by assimilating Ukraine. Although in affect Russia's 20th century tactic of mass artillery bombardment has essentially removed Ukraine from the wheat production market for a decade if not more.

The cost is MUCH bigger if we do nothing: I am sorry to inform you that Russia is undermining democracies since 2-3 decades now.
And now they directly attack independant countries that decided to split with the mafioso-authoritarian regime.

You are not providing any solution or alternative, you are the one who is "trying hard".



"survey conducted between October 12 and November 7 involving 26,443 respondents."
What's your issue ?

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jan 8 2023 08:33am

Why do you do this? I don't see anything resembling a bid for emotional relief in what you're replying to. Your reply also looks like delusional cope. You must believe that Ukraine is somehow the world's New bastion of freedom and democracy and will be marching into Moscow by Spring 2023.

At bold, I disagree completely.

Why would you speculate on what I believe? Why don't you provide an outlay of what you believe?
Try to base it on objective observation and without emotion unlike Djunior?

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jan 8 2023 09:05am

Russia claiming it killed 600 ukrainian soldiers
A statement by the Russian ministry said that “it had used what it called reliable intelligence to target the Ukrainian troops”.
“As a result of a massive missile strike on these temporary deployment points of Ukrainian army units, more than 600 Ukrainian servicemen were destroyed”.
It further said that more than 700 Ukrainian troops had been living in one of the buildings, while another 600 were in another, amongst the ones targeted by them.

Not sure if real...

Why are you so dishonest? How many times have I said my stance was to negotiate ~> there was real opportunity to negotiate before the war broke out. I can post sources and all that good stuff if you need.

So I did provide an alternative many times and none of the destruction and sanctions would have happened, nullifying the costs that you talk about.



You're well aware that I base things on objective observation and I often include official sources. The issue is that you ignore those because those sources do not fit your preferred narrative (Putin bad / dictator / etc).

Official NATO sources regarding NATO expansion, Amnesty International report, that kind of stuff.