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Jan 7 2023 09:17am
Quote (Djunior @ 7 Jan 2023 16:11)
NATO could've negotiated before the war had even started but decided to go ahead and "destroy" Russia

What irony huh


It is impossible to trust Russia and its authoritarian mafioso governement. Russia will violate treaties.
Russian authoritarian mafioso governement that would still continue to fund pro-russian groups in Ukraine, assassinate, intimidate etc...

Russia has to go, it's time.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jan 7 2023 09:18am
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Jan 7 2023 09:25am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 7 2023 04:14pm)
Russia invades. No more potential negotiations.

"That's NATOS fault"

This is the logical disconnect your projecting.


You've refused to look at genuine sources from the start. NATO expansion / future membership for Ukraine and Georgia and so on.

Al you do is dodging / deflecting / denying everything that doesn't match your "Putin bad" narrative and you're just posting mad rants in an endless circle jerk.

lol


Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 7 2023 04:17pm)
It is impossible to trust Russia and its authoritarian mafioso governement. Russia will violate treaties.
Russian authoritarian mafioso governement that would still continue to fund pro-russian groups in Ukraine, assassinate, intimidate etc...

Russia has to go, it's time.


Western leaders in the past negotiated MANY TIMES with the Soviets and both sides even signed treaties on nuclear weapons limitations and all that.

It's history and cannot be denied. You should stop spewing your nonsense and disinformation because we all know what you say is wrong ^^
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Jan 7 2023 09:32am
Quote (Djunior @ 7 Jan 2023 16:25)
Western leaders in the past negotiated MANY TIMES with the Soviets and both sides even signed treaties on nuclear weapons limitations and all that.

It's history and cannot be denied. You should stop spewing your nonsense and disinformation because we all know what you say is wrong ^^



Seems you are completely disconnected of reality: Actual Russia is no longer "soviets". It is an abomination of mafiosos linked with secret services psychos thinking they are tzar princes. Built over neo-capitalism, kompromat weather, and nomenklatura way of life.

Russian authoritarian mafioso governement that would still continue to fund pro-russian groups in Ukraine*, assassinate, intimidate, false-flag, despite any kind of treaty "because it's not specified on the paper".

* and many, many, other countries.

The mafiosos will be neutralized, enough is enough.

/e Good luck defending that, and it's not like we have the choice...

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Jan 7 2023 09:42am
Quote (Djunior @ Jan 7 2023 03:25pm)
You've refused to look at genuine sources from the start. NATO expansion / future membership for Ukraine and Georgia and so on.

Al you do is dodging / deflecting / denying everything that doesn't match your "Putin bad" narrative and you're just posting mad rants in an endless circle jerk.

lol




Western leaders in the past negotiated MANY TIMES with the Soviets and both sides even signed treaties on nuclear weapons limitations and all that.

It's history and cannot be denied. You should stop spewing your nonsense and disinformation because we all know what you say is wrong ^^


I accept NATO has expanded. I don't accept that as a justification to invade Ukraine.
You do and that is fine with me. No sense in trying to persuade a bastion of repressive oligarchs.
It's as if you literally went to Kremlin summer camp and swallowed the narrative hook, line and sinker.

There is sense in calling out your bullshit narratives and justifications. Whether it is Russian security, threatening NATO, the big bully Ukraine and its hordes of neo nazis.
If you just came out and said, well actually it has vastly more to do with power, supposed spheres of influence, resources and self preservation.

NATO expansion was inevitable in eastern europe.
Your acting like NATO held a gun to Europe's head and forced them to join.
Sort of like, what Russia is doing to Ukraine.

The US dollar is essentially the global currency and the US has secured global shipping lanes since the 1940's. Closer cooperation with that hegemony is how you get ahead.
And beyond that eastern Europeans don't want closer ties with Russia, incase you hadn't noticed?
Just compare average living standards in former soviet countries and Russia itself.
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Jan 7 2023 09:46am
Like SA, US or any western country aren't mafioso countries lmao with US getting enormous benefits of their petrodollars since decades

also south of Italy #1

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Jan 7 2023 09:51am
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do you want i post some picture of french nazi ? or other countries nazi? seems to be shocked that there is nazi in russia
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Jan 7 2023 09:53am
Quote (Pisior @ 7 Jan 2023 16:51)
do you want i post some picture of french nazi ? or other countries nazi? seems to be shocked that there is nazi in russia


Pas besoin mais si ton multi caca fait du spam je te report à la moderation.
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Jan 7 2023 09:55am
Quote (Pisior @ 7 Jan 2023 23:51)
do you want i post some picture of french nazi ? or other countries nazi? seems to be shocked that there is nazi in russia


Just a honest question.

Have you ever had a conversation with someone who is extremely progressive and liberal, who stand by their ideologue that real man can get pregnant and little boys who likes to play with dolls when they are 4 to 5 years old should take medication so that it will help them transit from boy to girls in an early age?
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Jan 7 2023 10:02am
Quote (fender @ Jan 7 2023 03:27pm)
no "and". just debunking the moronic "we're invading a foreign country, murdering women and children, bombing civilian infrastructure, and torturing prisoners because we are THAT concerned about nazis" excuse.

russia loves its nazis, pootin loves his nazi bodyguards, they couldn't care less about the nazis in ukraine. it's a transparent excuse, which everyone who makes it should be ashamed of falling for. that's all.


no really?
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Jan 7 2023 10:04am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jan 7 2023 04:55pm)
Just a honest question.

Have you ever had a conversation with someone who is extremely progressive and liberal, who stand by their ideologue that real man can get pregnant and little boys who likes to play with dolls when they are 4 to 5 years old should take medication so that it will help them transit from boy to girls in an early age?


:rofl:

Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 7 2023 04:53pm)
Pas besoin mais si ton multi caca fait du spam je te report à la moderation.


ba report .so you want french nazi foto ?
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