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Jan 7 2023 06:47am
Remember this is nothing to do with imperialism. This is about scary threatening nazis supplied by the imperialist NATO dogs.
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Jan 7 2023 06:50am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 7 2023 01:45pm)
Russia and Wagner literally armed convicts :rofl:

Wheres your apologetic highground?


Where did I deny that Russia is using Wagner / mercenaries? Quote me or GTFO

You didn't even address the Ukrainian far right ultra-nationalist problem, 100% dodge.

(I could point out Ukraine is using mercenaries / foreign legions as well but hey whatever)
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Jan 7 2023 06:56am
Quote (Djunior @ 7 Jan 2023 13:46)
It's clear they are simply using the Ukrainian ultra-nationalist problem for their own propaganda purposes. Simple as that.

There you go, I never denied shit like this, I'm not a dishonest debater unlike some other people here that refuse to check sources that point out Ukraine has a problem with far right ultra-nationalists groups ^^

People like YOU for example -_-


What you are saying is purely and simply false:

In the 2019 Ukrainian elections, the far-right nationalist electoral alliance, including Azov Battalion candidate Ruslan Koshulynskyi received 1.6% of the vote
In the parliamentary election, it was reduced to a single seat and saw its national vote fall to 2.15%, half of its result from 2014 and one-quarter of its result from 2012
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Jan 7 2023 07:08am
So, we see that the neo-nazi paramilitary organization which was in demand among 1.6% of Ukranian population is a part of Military Forces now. Does it make it less nazi?
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Jan 7 2023 07:15am
Quote (Djunior @ Jan 7 2023 12:50pm)
Where did I deny that Russia is using Wagner / mercenaries? Quote me or GTFO

You didn't even address the Ukrainian far right ultra-nationalist problem, 100% dodge.

(I could point out Ukraine is using mercenaries / foreign legions as well but hey whatever)



I never said you denied that. Your so wrapped up in your apologies you don't even see the hypocrisy.
"We must de-nazi Ukraine. Arm the convicts. Bring wagner and the Syrians"

Insanity and denial.

There were far right ultra nationalists in Ukraine. 100%
Although even if the entire azov battalion were neo nazis. What is that? 2,000 soldiers?

Does that justify a full scale invasion of Ukraine?
Or is there something else going on here?
Make your own decision.

Lets add that 2000 soldiers wouldn't even be a tenth of the amount of neo nazis in Russia.
So it's a perfect narrative for the Kremlin, but the reality is its overstated and a manipulated, hypocritical narrative.

Not to mention the repression of gay people in Russia and Chechnya especially.
Why is it the Kremlin are worried about far right Ukrainians more than far right Russians?
Could it be an ulterior motive?

Or is it just big scary NATO that forced Russia to coincidently imperialise Ukraine?
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Jan 7 2023 07:15am
Quote (Goomshill @ 7 Jan 2023 13:31)
My side's child soldiers fighting on behalf of a repressive authoritarian regime tainted with genocidal intent are better than their side's orcs fighting on behalf of a fading empire with ruthless territorial ambitions
wait which side is which again


you can push those russian propaganda narratives and try to bothsides the issue all you want, but that doesn't change the simple fact that there would be no war if putin hadn't invaded, and that it would be over immediately if he just withdrew his troops from ukraine.

even a propaganda NPC like you, uncritically buying into every little horror story pushed by the kremlin, no matter how absurd, can escape that simple truth.

zelensky doesn't have to be a "good guy", the ukrainians don't have to be perfect or saints or moral in everything they do - nothing of that is necessary to acknowledge that if putin actually wanted "PEACE", he could have it in an instant - but he's not interested. a point you will obviously continue to ignore while brainlessly pushing absurd propaganda spins, in order to malign the ukrainians for defending their country against an overwhelming force of foreign invaders who are indiscriminately murdering women and children, deliberately bombing civilian infrastructure, committing every war crime in the book...
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Jan 7 2023 07:18am
Quote (Norlander @ 7 Jan 2023 14:08)
So, we see that the neo-nazi paramilitary organization which was in demand among 1.6% of Ukranian population is a part of Military Forces now. Does it make it less nazi?


Btw not sure how deformed far right narrative will compete with loot, rape, torture, and assasinations. Oh and WAGNER.


This subject is more likely important to discuss:

"Ukraine’s military intelligence has claimed that Russia is set to order the mobilisation of as many as 500,000 conscripts in January in addition to the 300,000 it called up in October"

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/06/russia-preparing-mobilise-extra-500000-conscripts-claims-ukraine

I'm not sure if true. I hope not.
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Jan 7 2023 07:33am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 7 2023 12:17pm)
Big scary Ukraine with the largest miltary on the continent and the biggest stockpile of nuclear weapons.

Wait...


Pretty much the US lol

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 7 2023 01:47pm)
Remember this is nothing to do with imperialism. This is about scary threatening nazis supplied by the imperialist NATO dogs.


It's funny how long you keep being hypocrite about the fact that we did everything to provoke russia, including banning a gov that wasn't aligned with us and replaced it with nazis that took power with force.

Just imagine one second the same thing happening in Mexico or Canada. Well nevermind, you would still look dumb with a blue purple face avatar
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Jan 7 2023 07:38am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 7 2023 02:18pm)
Btw not sure how deformed far right narrative will compete with loot, rape, torture, and assasinations. Oh and WAGNER.


This subject is more likely important to discuss:

"Ukraine’s military intelligence has claimed that Russia is set to order the mobilisation of as many as 500,000 conscripts in January in addition to the 300,000 it called up in October"

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/06/russia-preparing-mobilise-extra-500000-conscripts-claims-ukraine

I'm not sure if true. I hope not.


"Wagner is only 2000 soldiers or so it's not representative" REEE
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