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Another little detail that Santara failed to mention is that Somalia has been fighting forever, even long before Europe was down messing around in that country.

The middle east and Africa have been fighting forever. NOW, however, it's all the western world's fault. :/
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Another little detail that Santara failed to mention is that Somalia has been fighting forever, even long before Europe was down messing around in that country.

The middle east and Africa have been fighting forever. NOW, however, it's all the western world's fault. :/


Denser than a fucking neutron star.
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Denser than a fucking neutron star.



I'm really getting tired of 3rd world shit hole countries... blaming the 1st world countries for all their troubles. These countries were 3rd world shit holes before there was civilization, and they still are.
And I don't care what color their skin is. They don't want to be civilized.

Look at South Africa right now. They're are destroying what little civilization they have. Why? Wtf knows.

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I'm really getting tired of 3rd world shit hole countries... blaming the 1st world countries for all their troubles. These countries were 3rd world shit holes before there was civilization, and they still are.
And I don't care what color their skin is. the don't want to be civilized.

Look at South Africa right now. They're are destroying what little civilization they have. Why? Wtf knows.


It's almost like those first world countries colonized them, extracted their resources with no compensation to the locals, violently suppressed uprisings and killed their leaders, and then used them as a dumping ground when colonialism stopped being viable.

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Another little detail that Santara failed to mention is that Somalia has been fighting forever, even long before Europe was down messing around in that country.

The middle east and Africa have been fighting forever. NOW, however, it's all the western world's fault. :/


And what, exactly, does this have to do with the dumping of toxic/radioactive waste off their shores?
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It's almost like those first world countries colonized them, extracted their resources with no compensation to the locals, violently suppressed uprisings and killed their leaders, and then used them as a dumping ground when colonialism stopped being viable.


Dude, they were fighting non stop among themselves before Europe even existed. Let alone the US.



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And what, exactly, does this have to do with the dumping of toxic/radioactive waste off their shores?


Africa had/has everything it needs to be a world superpower. AND they've had the time to do it. Same with the middle east.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gyvdas/police_officer_attempts_to_chase_down_and_falsely/

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Dude, they were fighting non stop among themselves before Europe even existed. Let alone the US.





Africa had/has everything it needs to be a world superpower. AND they've had the time to do it. Same with the middle east.


Doesn't answer the question.
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Far fetched? The UN did a report on it in 2005. I know exactly where Somalia is in regard to highly traveled sea routes. This actually makes it easier for the dumpers, as they can load up on a ship already carrying other goods, and when they go through the Gulf of Aden, just push it overboard. And like Santara mentioned, without a globally-recognized state, what recourse did Somalia have, from a legal standpoint?

https://ejatlas.org/conflict/somalia-toxic-waste-dumping-somalia
https://postconflict.unep.ch/publications/dmb_somalia.pdf


The reason why pirating exists is because it's a very profitable venture in a country that doesn't have many sources of income. Finding a few cases of dumping doesn't somehow invalidate the reality that they are doing this for money.

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According to some estimates, pirates in 2008 pulled in as much as $150 million, indicating that piracy is now Somalia's biggest industry. In fact, successful pirates are the country's most eligible bachelors. While small-time swashbucklers earn in the low five figures, bosses can pull in $2 million a year—


https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124060718735454125

Most behavior in life is driven by personal profit/benefit. Somali fishermen banding together to stop neighboring countries fishermen fishing their waters is an example of that, Somali pirates recognizing they can make 5 figures+ in a country where the average monthly income is 400 dollars a month has nothing to do with stopping dumping out of the kindness of their heart and has everything to do with making dough. Like lol, what revisionist reality do you live in?
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Doesn't answer the question.




It has about the same amount to do with Santara's response to what I said... absolutely nothing.
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