Looking into this subject more, it appears FISA warrants are much easier to obtain than I initially thought. Even though the Trump-Russia Dossier was probably an uncorroborated and political document at the time (October 2016), it appears that it could meet the FISC's very loose standards for obtaining a warrant. We also don't know what the FBI knew - perhaps they knew a lot more about the Dossier in October 2016 than sourcing reported.

Therefore, upon my research, I do concede my point about the FISA warrant process. I still think the basis of the warrant was shaky and political, but for better or worse, it appears FISA warrants are pretty damn easy to get (just take a look at the number of requests vs the number granted - 99.7%).

It makes one think, though. The rights of the accused are very important, and the FISC appears to be a secret, non-adversarial system of judicial review: Carter Page was never charged with anything, yet his personal life was closely monitored for over year on the basis of hearsay, business associations, and possibly his own political opinions.

It really makes you wonder how the FBI defined "probable cause" on 4 separate applications (1 initial, 3 renewals) despite never charging Page with any crime in the end.

Yep. Like Schiff said (going to paraphrase him) "if you needed proof of a crime before getting a FISA warrant, you'd have very few of them" Questioning the FISA warrant process is totally legit (i agree with you the process isn't very transparent) but DO NOT listen to the partisan hackery that was the Nunes memo... Nunes and House G.O.P. hacks are the only ones claiming the FISA warrant was solely based on the steele dossier is not very genuine.

To quote Schiff directly (not paraphrasing this time) "part of the reason to get the application is seeking proof ... that someone may be acting as an agent of a foreign power." Which i'm sure the FBI had every reason to believe that could be the case. I trust the FBI 1000000x more than devin nunes and you should too...

Not to mention as time goes on, a lot of the stuff in that dossier is getting confirmed. Lol. Let's remember this started out as a G.O.P. iniative (that later was picked up by the dems apparently).

Body language expert's summary of the trump/putin Helsinki fiasco:

Good read:

https://www.bodylanguagesuccess.com/2018/07/body-language-analysis-no-4323-trump.html?m=1

As i've been saying all along, i'll believe trump is innocent (of being a compromised president/russian asset) when he starts acting like it.

ok dad

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Jul 18 2018 08:38pm

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/397769-fbi-director-says-russian-influence-efforts-are-very-active

Russians still actively interfering

Trumpets who bleed red red and red still opposed to American intelligence agencies

It's weird the kind of mental gymnastics you have go through to foam at the mouth shouting America while gargling Putin's balls because their dear leader does the same

No... Wray SAID they were active. Big difference.

Should scrap all intelligence agencies for being lefty organizations and let national security be run by Ghot's intuition 🤔

No, not that either. I would definitely not be the right person.


/e But back in HS I did score 96th percentile on Intuition. Before any1 asks, I don't remeber the name of the test. It was some standardized placement test in the 70's. I still have the results somewhere.

This post was edited by Ghot on Jul 18 2018 08:54pm

Cambridge Analytica data set on tens of millions of Americans (data collected by Kogan) was "accessed from Russia and other countries" according to Damian Collins, a conservative MP leading a British parliamentary investigation into online disinformation.

Shocker[/sarcasm]