Quote (Djunior @ 7 Jan 2023 01:40)

You were all sucking up that Russian gas cuz it was cheap and convenient. Ask Gerhard Schroder about it, lol

Back to your cave now

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 6 Jan 2023 20:12)

Abit out of topic bro.
But have a good laugh
https://eurasiantimes.com/bloody-irony-taiwans-carrier-killer-missile-designed-to-sink-pla-navy-warships-sent-to-china-for-repairs/

Quote (fender @ Jan 6 2023 08:08pm)

try to make a coherent argument then for once: what is "IT" in your "argument"? what is the blunder?

if you mean relying to such a degree on russian fossil fuel, i'd absolutely agree. that was a massive blunder, fueled (pun intended) by a ridiculous over-reaction to fukushima within german politics, and underestimating / ignoring pootin's lunacy and disregard for international borders.

if you, however, mean the completely moronic talking point of "mAkiNg rUsSiA oUr eNeMy", conveniently ignoring who the (repeated) military aggressor is, and at the same time pretending russia has no agency in our bilateral relations, then you just completely ignored all the arguments (many of which you ironically presented yourself btw) as to who is responsible for the deterioration of russia's relations with the west.

again, the EU did NOT want that war, we are the third biggest losers behind russia and the ukraine, we were interested in a strengthening of economic ties and diplomatic solutions to conflicting interests. how daft would someone have to be not to understand that? xD

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jan 6 2023 08:12pm)

Abit out of topic bro.
But have a good laugh

:rofl:

https://eurasiantimes.com/bloody-irony-taiwans-carrier-killer-missile-designed-to-sink-pla-navy-warships-sent-to-china-for-repairs/

Quote (Norlander @ 6 Jan 2023 20:22)

A cherry on top: Jens Stoltenberg to be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by far-right Norwegian MP Christian Tybring-Gjedde.

Source: Aftenposten

https://www.aftenposten.no/norge/i/mBKed4/nyhetsstudio-siste-nytt?pinnedEntry=67538

Quote (Meanwhile @ 6 Jan 2023 22:27)

A man who discovered the world as a real man:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens_Stoltenber

Quote (Djunior @ 6 Jan 2023 20:21)

Nato expansion / NATO 2008 Bucharest summit (accepting future Ukraine/Georgia membership)

Euromaidan (coup) ~> pro EU puppet installed

Ukraine ~> Sevastopol, therefor ~> Russia mad

There a short synopsis I'm getting tires of having to post the same official sources again and again.

Do you really believe the Russians saw all of this as "friendly strategical moves" or something?




That's wild ^^

Quote (Norlander @ 6 Jan 2023 20:33)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fregObNcHC8

Quote (fender @ Jan 6 2023 08:34pm)

so your argument is the old "russia was forced to repeatedly invade its neighbours by military force, because their puppet in kyiv was ousted by a pro western government", and that somehow translates to "the west actively made russia its enemy", simply ignoring all the arguments that prove the west was interested in economic cooperation and diplomatic solutions? ya well, sorry if i don't buy into completely moronic and simplistic propaganda takes that don't even begin to make sense, only to justify a dictator murdering thousands of people in a senseless war of expansion.

Quote (fender @ Jan 6 2023 02:32pm)

hm, what's your native language, buddy? because what you quoted there is literally pootin ordering a unilateral ceasefire, lol.

he doesn't merely propose it to the ukrainian side (he obviously WANTS them to adhere to his terms, so he still calls for it anyway), but he clearly instructs it to his defence minister.

btw, the whole "pootin the pious, pootin the magnanimous" portrayal falls flat on its face given the fact that no such reprieve was ordered for easter (which every christian knows to be the holiest of days), when it obviously didn't fit into russian military planning and propaganda effort.