Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 6 2023 08:40am)

Please go volunteer, your tactical expertise is needed sun tzu.

Quote (fender @ Jan 6 2023 06:05pm)

thank you for providing further evidence that the west has in the past tried economic cooperation and cultural exchange, and that it was indeed russia's repeated military aggression which made it the enemy, and not some imaginary desire to make war with russia. germany in this case is a perfect example for making the mistake of ignoring pootin's authoritarian and expansionist inclinations, thinking economic exchange would keep them reasonable.

you're making my point for me, you're just not smart enough to realise it, lol.

Quote (Santara @ Jan 6 2023 01:18pm)

Never heard that stupid line before...

How about you volunteer for Wagner Group? Try to end this war for your pal?

Quote (ofthevoid @ 6 Jan 2023 23:18)

On a macro, long term strategic level I really can't comprehend the logic. I've talked about this about half a dozen times at this point. We all know China is the true challenger to our hegemony and displacing us. So if we're operating under that assumption, the subsequent question is how can we weaken them and prevent that from happening. Splitting Russia from their camp should have been a top priority. You do that by getting Russia into the western sphere, which actually would have been symbiotic. Russia can continue to supply tons of cheap energy to the EU while we can leverage that relationship and ties to drive a wedge between them and China.

Instead we make Russia the enemy, and use the western created financial infrastructure to try and crush them. So what happens is a secondary and parallel infrastructure is being created which is dominated by China and you have so much of the world lining up to join them. Now China has a near guaranteed pipeline of cheap energy and raw natural resources because by trying to shut down Russia, we pushed them right into China's arms, guaranteeing crucial resources probably for decades to come. It literally put our decline on a fast track, with tons of energy producing giants looking east, forming stronger bonds with China and agreeing to stop using the greenback as the default international currency.

This has to be one of the bigger strategic mistakes we've seen in modern history, up there with Hitler opening up the eastern front. Maybe I'm missing something idk. Maybe the calculus was, that we'd be able to have some western installed puppets in Russia so we didn't need to respect their current powers?

Quote (ofthevoid @ 6 Jan 2023 22:22)

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 6 Jan 2023 18:07)

No he didn't lol

"Upon consideration of the address from His Holiness Patriarch Kirill, I instruct the Defence Minister of the Russian Federation to introduce a ceasefire along the entire line of contact in Ukraine from 12.00 on January 6, 2023 to 24.00 on January 7, 2023.

As a large number of Orthodox Christians reside in the area of hostilities, we call on the Ukrainian side to declare a ceasefire to allow them to attend church services on Christmas Eve as well as on Christmas Day."

Angry and wrong, as usual fender. Very predictable.

Quote (Djunior @ 6 Jan 2023 18:40)

You were all sucking up that Russian gas cuz it was cheap and convenient. Ask Gerhard Schroder about it, lol

Quote (fender @ Jan 6 2023 07:32pm)

yes, exactly. it's so funny that even when you spell it out directly, you somehow manage to miss the point that it's just further evidence that we had no interest whatsoever to make russia our enemy, lol.

it couldn't be more obvious that it was russia's repeated military aggression against its neighbours, and not your imaginary western bloodlust or inability to realise how a war impacts everyone economically (no shit!?), that lead to the situation.

it's almost impressive how you fail to put one and one together...

Quote (fender @ Jan 6 2023 05:01pm)

russia repeatedly invades its neighbours, including ukraine.

useful idiots: "why does the west make russia its enemy? a total strategical blunder."

these guys are so brainwashed and dumb, it's almost funny...

Quote (Djunior @ 6 Jan 2023 19:45)

No buddy, I quoted you and bolded part of your post and I pointed out the cost for Germany in a single year shows it's indeed a strategic blunder.

Here's your post, once again