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Jan 5 2023 12:31pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 5 2023 06:29pm)
Lol no, is invading Russia the only way you can see Ukraine being a threat to Russia? If so you are way out of your depth discussing these issues. Do you know what the CIA does by any chance? How about the national endowment for democracy? The US has many tools to attack countries, extremely simple minded to think they can only do so through direct conflict.

Have you heard of the cold war? Why was the US opposed to sovereign countries adopting a different ideology from theirs? Was that somehow a threat to them? Was Vietnam going to invade them if the commies won?


So democracy was the threat?

I agree.
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Jan 5 2023 12:33pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 5 2023 02:31pm)
So democracy was the threat?

I agree.


For someone who talks about dodging all the time that seems like a big ol dodge

Guess you are kind of busy fending off the growing number Russian trolls and putin apologists though, mistakes happen.
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Jan 5 2023 12:35pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 5 Jan 2023 19:16)
Promoting militant nationalism and anti Russian ideology in a neighboring state while also training and arming its troops with state of the art equipment and bringing it further into western military alliances doesn't seem threatening to you?

Mental gymnastics world champion lol


Quote (colorful @ 5 Jan 2023 19:22)
I love reading a good debate and seeing peoples talking points but you are just daft and have 0 idea of what you are talking about. I bolded the statement that stood out to me.

This is supposed to be a discussion about the war, not who is a jackass and who isn’t. A lot of people here reply to you and all you do is call them senseless or try to beat your beliefs into them. Why don’t you do what good old Deckard Cain has told us for the past decade plus: “stay a while and listen…”


Putin's aggressive policies since 30 years, and then pard trolls who still continue to accuse NATO after all the war crimes, these morons are doing it on hundreds of pages here.
I would send all that shit on frontline, russian side, right now lol.
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Jan 5 2023 12:36pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 5 2023 06:47pm)
Today:

Patriarch Kirill and Putin declare a 36 hour cease-fire for orthodox Christmas Eve / Christmas
Ukraine rejects the cease-fire and vows to keep fighting through Christmas

NATO powers are already lining up to join Ukraine in rejecting the temporary truce. German foreign minister already put out a statement calling for more war through Christmas


yeah, now let see how ukrainian army gonna take this. behind soldier there is man, father, son ,brothers... i m almost sure they wanted a cease fire too, but nato said no. that can break moral of ukrainian soldier, and i will add that show that Putin gave his autorisation to the Patriarch , so Putin want a litle moment of peace,
but seems nato disagree with that. so people who support nato and peace should ask themself some questions...
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Jan 5 2023 12:37pm
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Putin's aggressive policies since 30 years, and then pard trolls who still continue to accuse NATO after all the war crimes, these morons are doing it on hundreds of pages here.
I would send all that shit on frontline, russian side, right now lol.


How is it your English is getting worse as time goes on?
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Jan 5 2023 12:39pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 5 2023 06:33pm)
For someone who talks about dodging all the time that seems like a big ol dodge

Guess you are kind of busy fending off the growing number Russian trolls and putin apologists though, mistakes happen.


You've clarified the threat to Russian regime. Your literally arguing my point for me :rofl:



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Jan 5 2023 12:41pm
After France's signal (Macron to send tanks wasn't that expected) , US and Germany to Send Ukraine Armored Vehicles in Major Arms Upgrade

In an announcement that may come as soon as Thursday, the US will send Bradley Fighting Vehicles while Germany is expected to send its Marder vehicles

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 5 Jan 2023 19:37)
How is it your English is getting worse as time goes on?


How about this ? "ShitMulti should go back in its trash."
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Jan 5 2023 12:42pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 5 2023 02:39pm)
You've clarified the threat to Russian regime. Your literally arguing my point for me :rofl:


Cringe lol
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Jan 5 2023 12:42pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 5 2023 06:58pm)
How you deducted that from what I wrote is Kremlin level misappropriation.

Actually no. Negotiating with nuclear powers under threat of force, is not the only option. And should never be an option. Unless we want perpetual land grabs and conflicts around the world.
Is that what you support? Appeasing Putins aggression?

Just for fun though, how does this sound?

Lets negotiate.
Look, we already took the Crimea. We extorted your population during winter by turning off gas supplies.
We supported an insurrection in the east of your country for years. We are massing tanks and 190,000 troops on your border.
Our leader doesn't believe your country actually exists.
We don't accept your right to choose your own path as a sovereign country.
Oh and don't try asking those bullies NATO for help because we have nukes.
Remember that this is all NATOS fault.

Right...


Dude let this sink in --> they've had nukes for like 7 decades.

And in 1991 after negotiations they left Eastern EU without a shot fired while they had huge armies there ready to go rock & roll.

It's NATO going on a land grab spree since then, have a look at the damn thing that I showed you like a dozen times now.



Proof that the West can negotiate with the Russians is right there. It's history and no one can deny it.

Your brain is stuck in some weird loop dude. Wake the fuck up

This post was edited by Djunior on Jan 5 2023 12:45pm
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Jan 5 2023 12:43pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 5 2023 02:41pm)
After France's signal (Macron to send tanks wasn't that expected) , US and Germany to Send Ukraine Armored Vehicles in Major Arms Upgrade

In an announcement that may come as soon as Thursday, the US will send Bradley Fighting Vehicles while Germany is expected to send its Marder vehicles



How about this ? "ShitMulti should go back in its trash."


Lol I thought the French were supposed to be well educated
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