Think for one bloody second

If you would be the opposing side (Russia) and you see this



And this

https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2008/04-april/e0403h.html



And one of your most important naval bases happens to be Sevastopol

Do you see it as a threat YES or NO

It's Russian's fault that they build their country next to NATO's military bases.


This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Jan 5 2023 10:17am

Am I Putin, or am I everyday Russian?

If you are a kleptocratic dictator. Yes. An alliance of democratic countries expanding towards your regime, is a threat.
If your an everyday Russian. No this is not a threat.

Should concessions be made to a kleptocrat? No.

A completely unjustifiable invasion in terms of security for Russians.

Let me guess, Russia feels bullied?

I am not sure.
But In a classic traditional saying.

Fuck around and find out.

Putin orders cease fire in Ukraine over Orthodox Christmas - Kremlin

it's always interesting how stuff like this can stop a war, and they'll just go back to it after

damn stop with this fake new "unjustifiable invasion" ... we know the only invasion who are justifiable are from occident.. we know our political want the best for us, like a LGBT+ society, controled by big pharma and bankster. how can you fight for this?

This post was edited by Pisior on Jan 5 2023 10:29am

Kleptocrat / Putin bad / Dictator --> All of that shit doesn't matter. This is not YOUR country, it's Russia. How they run their country is up to them.

The point is that they got 6K nukes and the only sensible thing to do is to negotiate.

And we're talking about mutual security guarantees remember? See what you said very recently: (LMK if you need the full quote)



This post was edited by Djunior on Jan 5 2023 10:30am

Are we human or are we dancer?

Russia has a right to its security.
Ukraine joining NATO is not a threat to Russian security, or everyday Russians.
It's a threat for Putins kleptocracy.

There is a distinct difference.

If you support Putin's invasion, you don't support Russian security. You support a dictator self preservation and irredentism.

The time for negotiation is past. And that's on Russia.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jan 5 2023 11:19am