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Jun 7 2020 08:31pm
thread is too long to catch up on now, but heres my take:

i saw this a few days ago, roughly when whe posted it i think. my initial thought was "eh, i dont know, sounds pretty convincing, but are they really making him into a martyr and saying he was a good person? or just using him as an example to springboard to a discussion about perceived injustice?"


and then the next day i saw a news report (cbs, i think, which is left leaning if im not mistaken) about the memorial service for him, and that sure answered that question. yes, 100% theyre raising him up as a martyr and trying to make him out to be a saint who was randomly and viciously killed by the police just for being black. which is a flat out lie. vicious, perhaps, but definitely not random. if he hadn’t been high as a kite and trying to pass off a fake bill maybe he’d still be alive. Not that that justifies killing him, but if you choose to do something that puts yourself in a dangerous situation then at least part of the blame is on you. It’s like if a rich American went strolling through a crime infested part of Mexico and got kidnapped or killed by a drug cartel. Sure, the cartel is to blame for killing him, but he’s still an idiot for going there in the first place.

as ive said here a few times, the greatest injustice here is people like al Sharpton and others who continue to tell black people that they are oppressed by an unfair system and have no hope etc etc. People who have no hope turn to gangs etc. But it’s not true, there are plenty of opportunities available to blacks who are willing to work to take advantage of them. As one example that ive previously given, my [black] father-in-law came from a poor family in Chicago. Instead of getting mixed up in gangs, he joined the army, used it to get an education and became a lawyer. If he could do that 50 years ago when there WERE still remnants of institutional racism, anyone could do that now when there is none. the protestors SHOULD be protesting (but not looting) but theyre protesting the wrong thing.
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Jun 7 2020 08:35pm
Quote (ReturnFormer @ Jun 7 2020 09:31pm)
thread is too long to catch up on now, but heres my take:

i saw this a few days ago, roughly when whe posted it i think. my initial thought was "eh, i dont know, sounds pretty convincing, but are they really making him into a martyr and saying he was a good person? or just using him as an example to springboard to a discussion about perceived injustice?"


and then the next day i saw a news report (cbs, i think, which is left leaning if im not mistaken) about the memorial service for him, and that sure answered that question. yes, 100% theyre raising him up as a martyr and trying to make him out to be a saint who was randomly and viciously killed by the police just for being black. which is a flat out lie. vicious, perhaps, but definitely not random. if he hadn’t been high as a kite and trying to pass off a fake bill maybe he’d still be alive. Not that that justifies killing him, but if you choose to do something that puts yourself in a dangerous situation then at least part of the blame is on you. It’s like if a rich American went strolling through a crime infested part of Mexico and got kidnapped or killed by a drug cartel. Sure, the cartel is to blame for killing him, but he’s still an idiot for going there in the first place.

as ive said here a few times, the greatest injustice here is people like al Sharpton and others who continue to tell black people that they are oppressed by an unfair system and have no hope etc etc. People who have no hope turn to gangs etc. But it’s not true, there are plenty of opportunities available to blacks who are willing to work to take advantage of them. As one example that ive previously given, my [black] father-in-law came from a poor family in Chicago. Instead of getting mixed up in gangs, he joined the army, used it to get an education and became a lawyer. If he could do that 50 years ago when there WERE still remnants of institutional racism, anyone could do that now when there is none. the protestors SHOULD be protesting (but not looting) but theyre protesting the wrong thing.


I like how your argument requires comparing the cops to a Mexican drug cartel to work.
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Jun 7 2020 08:38pm
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I like how your argument requires comparing the cops to a Mexican drug cartel to work.


i like how you totally ignored the point and tried to spin it to fit your rhetoric.
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Jun 7 2020 08:39pm
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i like how you totally ignored the point and tried to spin it to fit your rhetoric.


I dont think you appreciate how much that comparison says considering the subject is police brutality
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Jun 7 2020 10:21pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 7 2020 10:39pm)
I dont think you appreciate how much that comparison says considering the subject is police brutality


its says that yes, there are some cops who are as crooked as drug cartels. it doesnt say anything at all about how prevalent that is.

now, moving on to the real point...
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Jun 7 2020 10:25pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ 7 Jun 2020 22:16)
GoFundMe is just embracing conservative rhetoric and utilizing their rights as a private entity to refuse service to anyone they deem unfit for patronage.

Isn't freedom great, my friend? :D


freedom is great my friend. however my friend 'conservative rhetoric' used by GoFundMe subject to certain things like the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which they seem to be violating here my friend!
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Jun 7 2020 10:47pm
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freedom is great my friend. however my friend 'conservative rhetoric' used by GoFundMe subject to certain things like the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which they seem to be violating here my friend!


Not at all though! They're just living out the American Dream by being a business and making personal decisions about the kind of content they'd like on their site.

It is, after all, their right to free speech since their company is in-fact human thanks to the Supreme Court and Citizens United. Yay!
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Jun 7 2020 11:35pm
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Yea, its pretty bad. Although I don't think that past is as important.

Literally on the same day he robbed a convenience store and then he resisted going into a cop car. He literally said "I'm claustrophobic" even though he just got out of his car. He was also saying "I can't breathe" before he was arrested.

He also has a fucking cocktail of death options. It could have been:
-excited delerium from years of drug use
-fentanyl overdose
-COVID complications
-heart disease complications

95% of the protesters are completely clueless and should be ignored as the fools they are.


The black dude with a knee on his neck died from 'excited delerium'. Ok buddy. i think you need to put the fentanyl down too.
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Jun 8 2020 03:00am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 8 2020 12:47am)
Not at all though! They're just living out the American Dream by being a business and making personal decisions about the kind of content they'd like on their site.

It is, after all, their right to free speech since their company is in-fact human thanks to the Supreme Court and Citizens United. Yay!



GoFundME is a service not a "social media site". Maybe I'll call the electric company and complain that providing you with electricity is against my religious beliefs.

This post was edited by Ghot on Jun 8 2020 03:01am
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Jun 8 2020 04:22am
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The black dude with a knee on his neck died from 'excited delerium'. Ok buddy. i think you need to put the fentanyl down too.


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