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Dec 6 2019 10:21pm
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Dec 7 2019 03:19pm)
Boss is smarter and more talented than me, we have an agreement where he pays me X and I get X, this is of my own choice.

Caveat: except the government gets to take half.

Remember, if you were as valuable as you think you are, you would be the boss. Sorry kids, you aren't the 1% because you don't have the 1% work ethic, intelligence, etc. bow to daddy government because you can't do shit without them. You would've been the first to die in days past.


I do not have a boss and i am in the 1%, when i did last have a boss he was not smarter or more talented than me.
I have never paid 50% tax in my life, you should move.
Do you get all your talking points from libertarian blogs?

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Dec 6 2019 10:22pm
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Dec 6 2019 10:23pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Dec 6 2019 11:12pm)
Corporate boot licker is fine with boss taking a larger share of your productivity.


Another idiotic fabricated claim that has no relevance to the discussion or reality.

I support voluntary contracts between workers and employers where labor is voluntarily exchanged for wages.
I'm supporting liberty and want the government to take less out of everyone's paycheck.

I support removing artificial barriers to market entry and ending regulatory capture that put certain corporations at an undue coerced advantage.
I have a principled opposition to corporate welfare.


"Corporate bootlicker!"
..Mental midget

Tell me again how ad populum is a more than valid argument. LOL!
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Dec 6 2019 10:24pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Dec 6 2019 11:21pm)
I do not have a boss and i am in the 1%, when i did last have a boss he was not smarter or more successful than me.
I have never paid 50% tax in my life, you should move.


Good you proved my point.

Property Tax on the house you already paid for, income tax on the money you earn, sales tax for the ability to buy things, etc. etc. etc. yeah half your income is easily gone. Although I don't disagree I probably should move to Texas or something.
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 7 2019 03:23pm)
Another idiotic fabricated claim that has no relevance to the discussion or reality.

I support voluntary contracts between workers and employers where labor is voluntarily exchanged for wages.
I'm supporting liberty and want the government to take less out of everyone's paycheck.

I support removing artificial barriers to market entry and ending regulatory capture that put certain corporations at an undue coerced advantage.
I have a principled opposition to corporate welfare.


"Corporate bootlicker!"
..Mental midget

Tell me again how ad populum is a more than valid argument. LOL!


You are talking about in theory, but in practice your nonsensical ideals empower the corporations and harm the working poor.
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Dec 6 2019 10:25pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Dec 6 2019 11:21pm)
I do not have a boss and i am in the 1%, when i did last have a boss he was not smarter or more talented than me.
I have never paid 50% tax in my life, you should move.
Do you get all your talking points from libertarian blogs?


No, I waste entirely too much time on this forum and I have a fraction of your posts.
It's called not being a mongoloid. Imagine thinking LIBERTY is bad. Jesus fuck.
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Dec 6 2019 10:26pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Dec 6 2019 11:24pm)
You are talking about in theory, but in practice your nonsensical ideals empower the corporations and harm the working poor.


Another claim without evidence or logic.

Calling liberty and economic freedom nonsensical doesn't actually make it so.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Dec 6 2019 10:28pm
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Dec 6 2019 10:29pm
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Dec 7 2019 03:24pm)
Good you proved my point.

Property Tax on the house you already paid for, income tax on the money you earn, sales tax for the ability to buy things, etc. etc. etc. yeah half your income is easily gone. Although I don't disagree I probably should move to Texas or something.


I pay council rates on my properties, and in return i have access to trivial things like waste management and electrical infrastructure.
I do not pay income tax, i pay capital gains and at 13% after accounting its pretty reasonable.
More than half my income gets invested.
Another good 10% just gets thrown into a savings account where it generates nothing but looks pretty.
Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 7 2019 03:26pm)
Another claim without evidence or logic.

Calling liberty and economic freedom nonsensical doesn't actually make it so.


It was literally the garbage tier system of robber barons we replaced with this system, its tried and failed miserably.
All this regulation you want removed was put in place because of abuses, they were all responses to bad faith practices of the elite.

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Dec 6 2019 10:37pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Dec 6 2019 11:29pm)
It was literally the garbage tier system of robber barons we replaced with this system, its tried and failed miserably.


Pretending robber barons and the conditions of that era are the embodiment and pinnacle of liberty is nonsense.
You are choosing to associate liberty with things you think are bad and using post hoc fallacies to conclude that liberty is therefore bad and cant be better than that.

Saying "Robber barons" doesnt justify your false claims/insults that liberty is nonsense or that policies I support are only good for the rich.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Dec 6 2019 10:37pm
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Dec 6 2019 10:40pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 7 2019 03:37pm)
Pretending robber barons and the conditions of that era are the embodiment and pinnacle of liberty is nonsense.
You are choosing to associate liberty with things you think are bad and using post hoc fallacies to conclude that liberty is therefore bad and cant be better than that.

Saying "Robber barons" doesnt justify your false claims/insults that liberty is nonsense or that policies I support are only good for the rich.


Because corporations are literally mandated to drive profits by any means necessary, the more regulations you remove the more they will try to get away with.
I understand you live in a basement and read mises all day and have never had a job, i spent the last 6 years in a senior role with a fortune 500 company and have witnessed first hand multiple law violations where we decided it was worth risking a pissant fine for the potential gains.
I saw bonuses given out for illegal activities.

Westpac bank finally got caught here for 23 MILLION money laundering crimes, the ceo had to step down over the share price hit, he got a 2.7 million dollar payout on his way out.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Dec 6 2019 10:41pm
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Dec 6 2019 10:43pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Dec 6 2019 11:40pm)
Because corporations are literally mandated to drive profits by any means necessary, the more regulations you remove the more they will try to get away with.
I understand you live in a basement and read mises all day and have never had a job, i spent the last 6 years in a senior role with a fortune 500 company and have witnessed first hand multiple law violations where we decided it was worth risking a pissant fine for the potential gains.


Then you know exactly why this occurs, which is antithetical to your belief system btw and you also know and choose to ignore about a million other things that occur far more often and would oppose your worldview.

*shrug.

The fact is you can't effectively regulate human nature anyways, humans just adapt then you need to make more regulation until all you have is slavery and oppression. Ah yes, the government lefties love.
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