The supposed threat was never from NATO or a threat to Russian security. It was direct threat to Putin's kleptocracy.

"The democratisation of Russia’s former subjects indeed represents a threat, but not to the Russian people. It is a threat to the Russia’s kleptocratic authoritarian regime.
Free and democratic nations ‘give a bad example’ to the Russian people."

"in 1989, over 315,000 US troops, which formed the main NATO military force, were permanently stationed in Europe. By 2014, when Russia annexed Ukrainian Crimea, their numbers had dwindled fivefold, to some 61,000.

Within the same period, the number of US military aircraft in Europe fell from 800 to 170, while all of its 5,000 tanks were returned to the US.

Overall, the US military presence in Europe by 2014 was only 15 per cent of its size in 1989.

European NATO member states also reduced their military forces after the end of the Cold War; by 2014, the average military budget was some 1.6 per cent of GDP. In the meantime, Russia was intensively modernising its weapons and reforming its military forces with military expenditure of between 3.2 and 5.4 per cent of GDP."

Article - https://balkaninsight.com/2022/06/22/the-truth-behind-the-myth-of-russia-threatened-by-nato/

This, three times already.

Its ok if your convinced and determined to apologize for Putin's war. A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.


This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jan 4 2023 12:48pm

i think the distinction here is expansion is perceived as a threat even if that was (or was not) the intention of the expansion.

You mean like Chinese reaching out to Pacific islands i.e Solomon Islands?

Nato expansion ever westwards was a perceived threat to Russia
Chinese expansion (for want of a better expression) re: Solomon Island was also perceived as a threat to US Interests.

Yes to your question/anology, in my opinion.

Thanks to people with your mindset there's a war raging. Keep it up, I'll wait to see when that gas station gets shut down.

I'm done talking to brainwashed simps

It was widely reported in the media that the liberation of crimea is the next phase/step from Ukraine, as quoted by the leader of Ukraine. As previously mentioned, this to my mind will cause a serious escalation of the current conflict to a stage where it may be impossible to determine what happens next, with no actor being in control anymore.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 4 2023 01:10pm

Well Biden can flex his muscle and remove Zelensky from power and bring in someone he can better control.


An escalation to a point of no return is something that the Biden administration doesn't want to see now.
And if such an escalation proves imminent . The United states must and will react.

This will be a global catastrophe.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Jan 4 2023 01:26pm

France will give light tanks and armored vehicles to "stop the russian advance" and germany will start the production of "RCH 155 howitzers" ...

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It's reported that Ukraine has suffered over 100K dead and 35K missing. Add up all the wounded and it's clear that Ukraine is bleeding white.