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Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 23 2021 07:33am)
Honestly i dont know much about this stuff which is why im inclined to trust the medical science folks. Got a query pending with bazi


medical science folks speak out about it get cancelled. why i use bitchute they are not censored. why trust people that censor?
typically i dont trust anybody especially liars. remember "flatten the curve" its all been a lie. it was like an after thought. not much happened then the mask mandates in the middle of summer to keep peoples fear up and the fear mongering started. the last wave its just the flu season.

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Honestly i dont know much about this stuff which is why im inclined to trust the medical science folks. Got a query pending with bazi


Ive had to sit through a ridiculous number if town halls with my university's head virologist so I can at least convey what I was told if you're interested.

What questions do you have? I will be her Oracle.
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Ive had to sit through a ridiculous number if town halls with my university's head virologist so I can at least convey what I was told if you're interested.

What questions do you have? I will be her Oracle.


why do vaxxes get faked?

SILENCE OF THE LAMBS ACTOR ANTHONY HOPKINS GETS THE HOAX VAX HE'S PAID TO ACT - WHAT A LOSER
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bOXvmtF6kpfR/

Mariah Carey's Fake COVID Vaccine Video
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gBsCNMwCfpei/

what happened to this woman?
Stay Away from Vaxxed People
https://www.bitchute.com/video/sr64sgRUDLpz/

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 23 2021 10:59am)
Ive had to sit through a ridiculous number if town halls with my university's head virologist so I can at least convey what I was told if you're interested.

What questions do you have? I will be her Oracle.


short and long term side effects on expecting mothers and the children vaccinated vs unvaccinated

on top of that the back and forth by medical experts on astra zeneca doesn't inspire confidence

i'm inclined to think the liklihood of complications through vaccines are several orders of magnitude lower than the likelihood of complications from contracting the virus to begin with
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short and long term side effects on expecting mothers and the children vaccinated vs unvaccinated

on top of that the back and forth by medical experts on astra zeneca doesn't inspire confidence

i'm inclined to think the liklihood of complications through vaccines are several orders of magnitude lower than the likelihood of complications from contracting the virus to begin with


That's more or less the case.

Every vaccine has potential side effects. The key factor is that the side effects if everybody gets the vaccine will be orders of magnitude lower than deaths or side effects from people getting the disease.

We do not vaccinate for things that aren't potentially deadly or that can't be massively spread within the community. It has to do both to qualify as a vaccine candidate. This is one of the ways we ensure that benefits from the vaccination will always massively outweigh the harms.

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why do vaxxes get faked?

SILENCE OF THE LAMBS ACTOR ANTHONY HOPKINS GETS THE HOAX VAX HE'S PAID TO ACT - WHAT A LOSER
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bOXvmtF6kpfR/

Mariah Carey's Fake COVID Vaccine Video
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gBsCNMwCfpei/


you had me curious with that mariah carey one and this is what i found
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:10063985713
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Apr 23 2021 09:23am
dno if it was posted, thought it might be an interesting read

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/former-pfizer-vp-no-need-for-vaccines-the-pandemic-is-effectively-over

Pfizer's Vice President being against vaccines
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 23 2021 11:19am)
That's more or less the case.

Every vaccine has potential side effects. The key factor is that the side effects if everybody gets the vaccine will be orders of magnitude lower than deaths or side effects from people getting the disease.

We do not vaccinate for things that aren't potentially deadly or that can't be massively spread within the community. This is one of the ways we ensure that benefits from the vaccination will always massively outweigh the harms.


what about the long term side effects on infants? what's the history of mrna vaccines similar to the ones being used right now or are this generation different from the previous ones?
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Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 23 2021 08:19am)
you had me curious with that mariah carey one and this is what i found
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:10063985713


sounds convenient a retractable needle no one ever heard of before, ill look into it.
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 23 2021 08:19am)
That's more or less the case.

Every vaccine has potential side effects. The key factor is that the side effects if everybody gets the vaccine will be orders of magnitude lower than deaths or side effects from people getting the disease.

We do not vaccinate for things that aren't potentially deadly or that can't be massively spread within the community. It has to do both to qualify as a vaccine candidate. This is one of the ways we ensure that benefits from the vaccination will always massively outweigh the harms.


its not a vaccine its experimental mrna gene therapy. why dont you tell him what those do.
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retractable needles
this link predates covid and shows the construction of such a needle
https://info.totalwellnesshealth.com/thrive/using-vanishpoint-syringes-at-flu-shot-events

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Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Apr 23 2021 10:23am)
dno if it was posted, thought it might be an interesting read

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/former-pfizer-vp-no-need-for-vaccines-the-pandemic-is-effectively-over

Pfizer's Vice President being against vaccines


It's hilarious that you didn't even read the headline of your own article.

"FORMER Pfizer VP"

Looking at his arguments they are....

It's ridiculous to think that there is no crossover-immunity with other cornaviruses. As far as I can tell he's basing this on absolutely nothing. There's no evidence of crossover immunity. Unless he has a reference for this, it's unfounded.
That the PCR tests for Covid can come up positive from other coronavirus infections. This might be true if they were using a PCR primer that can cross-over. Again, no evidence of this happening. Primers are specifically designed to be specific to the test. They're not hard to design, but it will depend on the test.
People who have had the common cold should have preexisting immunity from cross-over immunity. This is not supported by anything. As far as I can tell he's making this up out of thin air. He's also saying that they will have "T-cells that help fight the virus even if they don't produce antibodies". This is not particularly relavent. T-cells help ramp-up response, they don't do the fighting or deactivate the virus. So it might help, but likely isn't going to prevent you from getting sick or spreading it. We would need a specific observation to make that conclusion and as fara s I know he isn't referencing one.

He seems to know how things work, but he's making a ton of unfounded assumptions because he is not somebody who's expertise is in epidemiology or infectious disease.

This is actually a great case-study on expertise. When you are looking at an expert's testimony, it is important to understand what their expertise is in and apply that as narrowly as possible. This guy is an expert in respiratory diseases. So when he talks about respiratory disease, he's an expert. However, when he then goes on to talking about T-cells, the immune system, lab testing, and other things, he has left his field of expertise.
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