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Dec 31 2022 01:42pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 31 2022 03:22pm)
Most of Ukraine including Kiev has water piping that relies on central heated water to be pumped into buildings to heat them, which means that if its disrupted it freezes the pipes, and the central heating can't be easily replaced with fuels or electricity or whatever.
To survive a lot of civilians are going to have to abandon their apartment blocks and congregate in centralized areas. Which makes them sitting ducks for Russian airstrikes.


Actually this method of shelling and targeting civilian infrastructure is just classic Russian military doctrine.

The outcome will be self-segregation of civilians. Some will leave as refugees. Russia will never have to worry about those civilians again. Anyone who stays under the age of around 55 likely stayed to fight, and then Russian's can shell them as combatants. eg Maruipol, Bakhmut

If they cannot win with a conventional military occupation, they can leave areas uninhabitable through the destruction of infrastructure and agricultural land.
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Quote (Djunior @ Dec 31 2022 07:41pm)
I should've added /s just for you

It was MSM propaganda


LOL I picked up on that, thanks though.

Lets be balanced and include Russian state controlled propaganda.
Media has an interest in creating a narrative. That is not something unique to the west.

Or is Kremlin propaganda something else you can apologize for?

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 31 2022 08:44pm)
LOL I picked up on that, thanks though.

Lets be balanced and include Russian state controlled propaganda.
Media has an interest in creating a narrative. That is not something unique to the west.

Or is Kremlin propaganda something else you can apologize for?


Russia obviously uses propaganda and always has but the point I've repeatedly made is that all countries want / need to rally their citizens behind them so all of them use propaganda not just the Russians.

Don't know why you use "else" cuz I'm not apologizing.
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Brilliant warrior awarded by Lord Putin during his new year’s speech today, explains that wounded Russian soldiers don’t want to be evacuated from the battlefield as they want to keep fighting with their comrades.
It's interesting to watch... Putin's reactions during her small speech
https://twitter.com/i/status/1609250598934773765

also:

BREAKING: Russia deploys Battle Mage with enhanced drone spotting ability to Ukraine frontlines
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlYKyoeWAAEacLy?format=jpg&name=900x900

Finally:

(potentially sensitive content.)
https://twitter.com/Seveerity/status/1609186603632857088

HNY

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Ukraine poorest country of europe ( first on europ) , corruption index 33, corruption rank 117. (first in europ , if you consider that russia isnt on euro xD)

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky rode to power on pledges to clean up the Eastern European country, but the Pandora Papers reveal he and his close circle were the beneficiaries of a network of offshore companies, including some that owned expensive London property.

https://www.occrp.org/en/the-pandora-papers/pandora-papers-reveal-offshore-holdings-of-ukrainian-president-and-his-inner-circle

"We all know that Ukrainians have low trust in the government" "having offshore companies was a bad idea for Zelenskiy as it undermines trust and moral right to ask other people to contribute a fair share to the society and specifically pay taxes in full."

https://voxukraine.org/en/a-chicken-and-egg-problem-how-can-ukrainians-have-a-good-government-if-they-don-t-trust-the-government/

yes he stole the monney of million ukrainian people, and yes now he trade their life for NATO and Usa plan, and yes he will be never judge for all he stole. he is a liar.
poor Ukranian people... i think they are praying for Putin save them.

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Ukraine poorest country of europe ( first on europ) , corruption index 33, corruption rank 117. (first in europ , if you consider that russia isnt on euro xD)

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky rode to power on pledges to clean up the Eastern European country, but the Pandora Papers reveal he and his close circle were the beneficiaries of a network of offshore companies, including some that owned expensive London property.

https://www.occrp.org/en/the-pandora-papers/pandora-papers-reveal-offshore-holdings-of-ukrainian-president-and-his-inner-circle

"We all know that Ukrainians have low trust in the government" "having offshore companies was a bad idea for Zelenskiy as it undermines trust and moral right to ask other people to contribute a fair share to the society and specifically pay taxes in full."

https://voxukraine.org/en/a-chicken-and-egg-problem-how-can-ukrainians-have-a-good-government-if-they-don-t-trust-the-government/

yes he stole the monney of million ukrainian people, and yes now he trade their life for NATO and Usa plan, and yes he will be never judge for all he stole. he is a liar.
poor Ukranian people... i think they are praying for Putin save them.


1 You should check ex-ussr countries historical economical growth before opening your mouth.

2 I would not do whataboutism but https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/pandora-papers-reveal-hidden-wealth-vladimir-putin-inner-circle

3 The money Zelensky had was from his TV shows (which public money ?) and he will have to answer for that at some point after the war for sure.

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Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 1 2023 10:43pm)
1 You should check ex-ussr countries historical economical growth before opening your mouth.

2 I would not do whataboutism but https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/pandora-papers-reveal-hidden-wealth-vladimir-putin-inner-circle

3 The money Zelensky had was from his TV shows (which public money ?) and he will have to answer for that at some point after the war for sure.


1. Whataboutism, not relevant we are talking about Ukraine not Poland or other USSR countries.

2. Whataboutism, we are talking about zelensky not putin.

3. No source -> invalid.

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1. Whataboutism

2. Whataboutism

3. No source


Like i will lose time with people who do direct comparisons in-between IRAQ and Ukraine. Ignorance is bliss.
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Like i will lose time with people who do direct comparisons in-between IRAQ and Ukraine. Ignorance is bliss.


Once again, whataboutism and deflection.
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