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Dec 25 2022 06:42am
Russia will not stop invading other countries. All foreign affairs Putin has done since 1999 is about repositioning russias forward defensive perimeter. Kazakh intervention, Donbas war, Crimea war, Georgian war.

Russia only half way done. Estonia, Lativia, Lithuania, Romania, and Poland would be next.


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Dec 25 2022 06:44am
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 25 2022 10:43am)
Seems like a lot of the posts critical of NATO and explaining Russia's motives are just that, explanations based on logic and evidence
whereas a lot of the pro-NATO talking points are just cheap jingoistic labels.

If one side is saying 'NATO expansion up to Russia's doorstep and the euromaidan insurrection and 8 year siege explain Russia's casus belli', and the other side is saying 'orcs bad', what am I to make of it?


it is normal in this era for people to be fed, swallow and regurgitate hate speach. It is a fact that Russia invaded, and has committed war crimes. Also, there are various studies (previously linked in this topic) which outline how narrow people are of their views, and that in combatting Russia no tactic of action will be seen as questionable.
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Dec 25 2022 07:09am
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 25 2022 05:43am)
Seems like a lot of the posts critical of NATO and explaining Russia's motives are just that, explanations based on logic and evidence
whereas a lot of the pro-NATO talking points are just cheap jingoistic labels.

If one side is saying 'NATO expansion up to Russia's doorstep and the euromaidan insurrection and 8 year siege explain Russia's casus belli', and the other side is saying 'orcs bad', what am I to make of it?


Russia has a really large door step. Its a really shitty doorstep at that.
Are you saying it should be ok for Russia to continue invading other countries?

This post was edited by said_aouita on Dec 25 2022 07:11am
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Dec 25 2022 07:11am
Quote (said_aouita @ Dec 25 2022 01:09pm)
Russia has a really large door step. Are you saying it should be ok for Russia to continue invading other countries?


thats not what he said. read it again.
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Dec 25 2022 07:12am
Quote (ferdia @ Dec 25 2022 08:11am)
thats not what he said. read it again.


He didn't say anything, I know. It's why I'm asking. He thinks nato is in the wrong, obviously.
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Dec 25 2022 07:14am
Great informative video.

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Dec 25 2022 07:31am
Quote (said_aouita @ Dec 25 2022 01:42pm)
Russia will not stop invading other countries. All foreign affairs Putin has done since 1999 is about repositioning russias forward defensive perimeter. Kazakh intervention, Donbas war, Crimea war, Georgian war.

Russia only half way done. Estonia, Lativia, Lithuania, Romania, and Poland would be next.


Ahem *cough

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO

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Dec 25 2022 07:39am
Quote (Djunior @ Dec 25 2022 08:31am)
Ahem *cough

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO

https://i.imgur.com/r5pXxaD.jpg


OK. What does nato allowing more to join have to do with Russia invading other countries? Just because Russia may not like a neighbors political agenda, it does not give them the right to invade.

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Dec 25 2022 07:41am
Quote (said_aouita @ 25 Dec 2022 21:14)
Great informative video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A79uneUEfjM


You mean this guy here.

This Jewish Guy so smart.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/11/peter-zeihan-makes-bad-predictions-with-bad-premises.html

I can't wait till Japan Dominate Asia so we can have cat girls . ;)

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Dec 25 2022 07:42am
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Dec 25 2022 07:43am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Dec 25 2022 08:41am)
You mean this guy here

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/11/peter-zeihan-makes-bad-predictions-with-bad-premises.html

I can't wait till Japan Dominate Asia so we can have cat girls . ;)


Did you read the article?

From 2016- pretty accurate...

"Zeihan predicts that America will withdraw from its global cop role.

Zeihan predicts that without America as cop that world will go into fighting and chaos and world trade will collapse. This will be followed by the collapse of countries.

Zeihan predicts that Germany’s economy will collapse to one fourth its current level without trade in a world of Chaos"

This post was edited by said_aouita on Dec 25 2022 07:45am
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