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Dec 23 2022 06:23pm
Quote (ownyaah @ 24 Dec 2022 08:16)
I think if Chinese people could choose democratically their foreign policy, that is exactly what they would do 100%.

Legit if I was faced in a war against anyone, I would choose anyone but the Chinese. But yea, Chinese will believe literally anything, as long as another Chinese says it on TV.

I've meet several Chinese citizens, all of them are batshit. Dispora is a bit different tho


Yup, because they went from from super poor to fairly rich within a short period of time so they support the government fully.
If the CCP doesn't hold these idiots back and give them Democracy , holy shit , things will happen real quick.

Not only will the Chinese jump on Japan, the Koreans , North and South will do it without batting an eyelid and Russians will come in and take the Kurill Islands .

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Dec 23 2022 06:23pm
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Dec 23 2022 06:27pm
Quote (ownyaah @ Dec 24 2022 12:06am)
Westerners are very deluded when it comes to media, even after they are lied to time and time again. Most non-westerners are very well aware that 99% of news are bs, they know how corrupt these people are and that they are always pushing an agenda at least the non-westerners I have come across.

The only group of people I have come across that are non-westerners the way you think, are funnily enough Chinese people and Turks. Chinese and turkish nationalists genuinely scare me.


I have nothing to gain from convincing you otherwise. I simply disagree.

I will add only that it is worrying to hear your statement made with such conviction.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 24 Dec 2022 08:27)
I have nothing to gain from convincing you otherwise. I simply disagree.

I will add only that it is worrying to hear your statement made with such conviction.


You just couldn't see his point and why he made that statement.
The world at large are deluded with media
Westerners are more so.

The internet has made great strides in the advancement of communications worldwide.
I see more cons than pros.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Dec 24 2022 03:30am)
You just couldn't see his point and why he made that statement.
The world at large are deluded with media
Westerners are more so.

The internet has made great strides in the advancement of communications worldwide.
I see more cons than pros.


100%, also the reason why many non-western countries aren't as deluded is because their governments/institutions are overtly corrupt, have history of being unstable or are conflict prone. This all disillusions the population of the people in charge. There is a strong inherent sense of cynicism.

This also explains why Chinese are the most susceptible when it comes to media trust, because they went on a meteoric rise from a 100 year period of humiliation to being a literal world-leader. The approval rating of cpc is like 95% (harvard study).

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Dec 24 2022 12:30am)
You just couldn't see his point and why he made that statement.
The world at large are deluded with media
Westerners are more so.

The internet has made great strides in the advancement of communications worldwide.
I see more cons than pros.


Quote (ownyaah @ Dec 24 2022 12:55am)
100%, also the reason why many non-western countries aren't as deluded is because their governments/institutions are overtly corrupt, have history of being unstable or are conflict prone. This all disillusions the population of the people in charge. There is a strong inherent sense of cynicism.

This also explains why Chinese are the most susceptible when it comes to media trust, because they went on a meteoric rise from a 100 year period of humiliation to being a literal world-leader. The approval rating of cpc is like 95% (harvard study).


Could completely see the point he was making. Had to simply point out its logical fallacy.

If we take your point that Russians are less deluded, then that is even more worrying; due to the lack of protest or dissatisfaction with Putin.

To suggest westerners are more naive in regards to media, suggests you are truly lost.

Two decades of completely censored media in Russia.
140 million people living in Vlads personal black mirror episode.
I won't comment on China but I'm certain the censorship there is just as brutal.

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why do i suspect official narratives are a lie?
great ruler in history.........a winston churchill or some chit?
Volodymyr Zelensky speelt piano


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yeah this guy is a shame president for Ukranian. how people decide to vote for this kind of guy, fake election obligatory or they are dumb.
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Quote (Pisior @ Dec 24 2022 07:25am)
yeah this guy is a shame president for Ukranian. how people decide to vote for this kind of guy, fake election obligatory or they are dumb.


The Ukrainians in power right now have no interest for the war to end for two reasons really. The country is on life support from the west. Tens of billions are flowing into Ukraine, that type of money really has never been seen before in Ukraine and while most people are suffering there's a select number of people there that are in power that are getting filthy rich. Ukraine is not unique in it's corruption, much of eastern Europe, particularly ex-soviet states are like this.

Second reason is, as soon as the war stops foreign money will stop and the people in power will be on the hook for what's next. Country in shambles, little to no economic productivity, few job prospects, domestic discontent and massive issues of poverty. Realistically people would turn on the politicians for the situation. At that point you won't be able to externalize the fault to Russia, because people will blame internal forces for the bleak situation.

So really there's no way out and they (the ukrainian politicians) will continue to want war as long as it means more western money.
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The Ukrainians in power right now have no interest for the war to end for two reasons really. The country is on life support from the west. Tens of billions are flowing into Ukraine, that type of money really has never been seen before in Ukraine and while most people are suffering there's a select number of people there that are in power that are getting filthy rich. Ukraine is not unique in it's corruption, much of eastern Europe, particularly ex-soviet states are like this.

Second reason is, as soon as the war stops foreign money will stop and the people in power will be on the hook for what's next. Country in shambles, little to no economic productivity, few job prospects, domestic discontent and massive issues of poverty. Realistically people would turn on the politicians for the situation. At that point you won't be able to externalize the fault to Russia, because people will blame internal forces for the bleak situation.

So really there's no way out and they (the ukrainian politicians) will continue to want war as long as it means more western money.


What the fuck is wrong here ? Not everyone has the same standards that you or Putin. MORAL STILL EXISTS
Minimal intelligence too: if the war ends they will have some rest and will be the heroes of the reconstruction.
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What the fuck is wrong here ? Not everyone has the same standards that you or Putin. MORAL STILL EXISTS
Minimal intelligence too: if the war ends they will have some rest and will be the heroes of the reconstruction.


The moral thing to do is to compromise and seek peace so normal people don't suffer. Not pledge tens of billions of dollars in weapons month after month. You argue for war and think it's moral. Clown world logic.
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