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Quote (ownyaah @ Dec 23 2022 08:29pm)
I don't really like the narrative, "they thought they were going to train", it is silly. Better to not infantilize. As for who has more motivation and moral, I would say it depends from unit to unit, and region to region. West Ukrainians are very motivated but less than the people from Donetsk/Luhansk. South regions are far more indifferent, or don't support the fighting such as Odessa. Both sides mobilized troops have lower motivation/morale, remember these guys are "forced" to fight. There has been plenty of videos from both sides protesting. Motivation and morale fluctuate, it is dynamic and differs month to month.




You make up things as you go, and everything you say is pure propaganda. Both sides have had mobilizations, Russia 300k and Ukraine 400k+. Ukrainian men are banned from leaving the country, a fact you like to neglect. There has been hundreds of videos from both sides both protesting against the mobilization process and also entire units complaining about HEAVY losses and refusing to fight. There is also video evidence of executions of deserters, I would link it but this is Jsp -> ban.


Russians were told they were going for training exercises, not to invade Ukraine. Do the research.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Dec 23 2022 08:28pm)
No, I didn't lol, you might want to work on your reading comprehension there champ.

Yes the Russians made many mistakes in their initial invasion and I dont think anyone really claims otherwise, even Russians think so. That isn't some deep insight just so you know, and if you think I have some personal attachment to them succeeding you are once again mistaken, almost seems like a trend.

I'm shocked our lone point of agreement is on something bad about Russia lol. Russia is a corrupt shithole remnant of an murderous empire, and Ukraine is just a broken off piece of that same garbage pile, so I have no problem pointing out the problems with Russia but to pretend Ukraine is some vastly different place shows how little you know about either.


Actually I don't think about you at all. Your ad hominem suggests you think about me though. Poor framework for your arguments.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 23 2022 04:50pm)
Russians were told they were going for training exercises, not to invade Ukraine. Do the research.



Actually I don't think about you at all. Your ad hominem suggests you think about me though. Poor framework for your arguments.


Lmao you should get used to ad hominems if you insist on talking about things you know nothing about, reddit brained moron.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 23 2022 11:50pm)
Russians were told they were going for training exercises, not to invade Ukraine. Do the research.



Actually I don't think about you at all. Your ad hominem suggests you think about me though. Poor framework for your arguments.


Shoigu has also had 14 heart attacks, 13 cases of cancer, 8 cases of aids and has died a total of 88 of 85 times he ended up in ER (same ratio as missiles shotdown). How is it possible that people read pure unfiltered propaganda and still believe any of it?

Lemme point out a few things:
1. Putin announced the invasion on TV
2. The army units didn't know where Russian border ended?
3. The army units didn't see street signs that they were in Ukrainian territory? Since when has a country done "training exercises in enemy territory"
4. How come hundreds of special forces units, VDV etc took Gomel airport but didn't know where they are?
5. How did tank and armored vehicle drivers not know where they are going? Did they drive with their eyes plugged with your mothers feces?
6. The first Ukrainian units at Kherson border crossing surrendered, do you think the soldiers didn't realize what is going on?
7. Diplomatic groupings were leaving the country enmasse, do you not think that makes soldiers think?
8. Macron/putin/scholz were having talks about a possible invasions for weeks before the war, all of this was publicly announced on TV.
9. Do you not realize how fking ridiculous your giga propaganda is? Why do you infantilize war?

10. Santara said Ukrainian soldiers would survive a nuclear bombs, prox1 is saying Russian soldiers are blind and cant hear, and meanwhile is saying Russia is the weakest country on earth but that they will also conquer all of europe.

Yall are nutty, brain damaged.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Dec 23 2022 03:05pm
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Quote (ownyaah @ Dec 23 2022 08:57pm)
Shoigu has also had 14 heart attacks, 13 cases of cancer, 8 cases of aids and has died a total of 88 of 85 times he ended up in ER (same ratio as missiles shotdown). How is it possible that people read pure unfiltered propaganda and still believe any of it?

Lemme point out a few things:
1. Putin announced the invasion on TV
2. The army units didn't know where Russian border ended?
3. The army units didn't see street signs that they were in Ukrainian territory? Since when has a country done "training exercises in enemy territory"
4. How come hundreds of special forces units, VDV etc took Gomel airport but didn't know where they are?
5. How did tank and armored vehicle drivers not know where they are going? Did they drive with their eyes plugged with your mothers feces?
6. The first Ukrainian units at Kherson border crossing surrendered, do you think the soldiers didn't realize what is going on?
7. Diplomatic groupings were leaving the country enmasse, do you not think that makes soldiers think?
8. Macron/putin/scholz were having talks about a possible invasions for weeks before the war, all of this was publicly announced on TV.
9. Do you not realize how fking ridiculous your giga propaganda is? Why do you infantilize war?

10. Santara said Ukrainian soldiers would survive a nuclear bombs, prox1 is saying Russian soldiers are blind and cant hear, and meanwhile is saying Russia is the weakest country on earth but that they will also conquer all of europe.

Yall are nutty, brain damaged.


I've heard phone calls of Russian soldiers claiming they expected to be on training exercises. Literally the day of the invasion.
Those are freely available online.

You also appear triggered.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Dec 23 2022 08:56pm)
Lmao you should get used to ad hominems if you insist on talking about things you know nothing about, reddit brained moron.


Lots of substance, your improving.



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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 24 2022 12:07am)
I've heard phone calls of Russian soldiers claiming they expected to be on training exercises. Literally the day of the invasion.
Those are freely available online.

You also appear triggered.



Lots of substance, your improving.


1. Russian soldiers are blind, deaf and therefore couldn't see where they were going and also never owned a TV, newspaper etc. They also did an elaborate manuever on Gomel stochastically. LOL

GL, your santara level monkey.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Dec 23 2022 03:12pm
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 23 2022 05:07pm)
I've heard phone calls of Russian soldiers claiming they expected to be on training exercises. Literally the day of the invasion.
Those are freely available online.

You also appear triggered.



Lots of substance, your improving.


Can't say the same for you lol
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How can russian soldiers operate artillery, tanks, apcs, planes if they can't see or hear?


This post was edited by ownyaah on Dec 23 2022 03:13pm
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 24 2022 12:07am)
I've heard phone calls of Russian soldiers claiming they expected to be on training exercises. Literally the day of the invasion.
Those are freely available online.

You also appear triggered.



Lots of substance, your improving.


https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=98707796&f=119&o=0#p635416613

We can continue this conversation there
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Quote (ownyaah @ Dec 23 2022 09:09pm)
1. Russian soldiers are blind, deaf and therefore couldn't see where they were going and also never owned a TV, newspaper etc. They also did an elaborate manuever on Gomel stochastically. LOL

GL, your santara level monkey.


Triggered much
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 24 2022 12:55am)
Triggered much


Not at all, ppl here just say some stuff which is too ridiculous. Then again it does make sense, id guess like 90% are hs dropouts or somth

If you gonna be dumb, atleast be elaborate about it so it is difficult to understand how stupid you are because it becomes hard to comprehend the point your making

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