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Quote (Melatonina @ Apr 22 2021 12:28am)
It's faaar from perfect though lmao

I'm surprised you didn't told me sclerosis was found before vaccines were found .. but yeah my point was, number of cases are exploding, just like cancers.
Some may say we diagnose thoses better than before just like for autism but that still doesnt explain the gap imo.


You are saying "that doesn't explain the gap" despite having no basis to think that. You might be right, but you don't know anything about the field, so your opinion is not really worth anything. One thing we know, is that when people get old enough for medicare in the states cancer instances goes way up. This is because they have access to insurance to pay for screenings they either couldn't afford before, or were putting off due to cost. So we know there's a lot of cancer that isn't caught, at least in America.

Thing is, you are right to be skeptical about pharmaceutical companies, and pharma in general. They can be dens of evil that puts out things they know to be harmful. But your skepticism leads you to some dumb conclusions that aren't supported by the evidence, and makes you look past other egregious problems. Like, we know beyond any semblence of a doubt that homeopathy does not work. It is 100% placebo. We also know that vaccines work and the benefits far outweigh the risks.

So I appreciate your being critical, but I think you should add more skepticism, because when you say pharma is bad, and then say homeopathy works, even though there's the exact same conflict of interest in homeopathic treatment as there is traditional pharma, you've left some skepticism on the table.

Give it some thought please.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 23 2021 01:29am)
You are saying "that doesn't explain the gap" despite having no basis to think that. You might be right, but you don't know anything about the field, so your opinion is not really worth anything.


I have seen the statistics about it. there is around 5k to 10k new sclerosis cases for France alone. Know the word "to the moon" ? that's what it is atm.
Ofc no one can tell without reasonable doubt that it is due to vaccins or environment, you cannot find what you're not looking for, that goes for long terms side effects of vaccines too. Dont touch the business.

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But your skepticism leads you to some dumb conclusions that aren't supported by the evidence, and makes you look past other egregious problems. Like, we know beyond any semblence of a doubt that homeopathy does not work. It is 100% placebo. We also know that vaccines work and the benefits far outweigh the risks.


I can also say that this is only your opinion. Your tests leading to placebo effects is normal, dont know posology or anything about it, can only lead to biased results...

I still don't understand this particular grudge agaisnt homeopathy, in here its 90% reimbursed.
It still worked 20 years for my mother and the radios proves it. But since auto-immune disease is stronger now she has to take that levotyrox, no one ever said or thought that it would save her thyroïd.
Also works for animals that were not told haha. must be placebo again b)
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Quote (Melatonina @ Apr 22 2021 11:02pm)
I have seen the statistics about it. there is around 5k to 10k new sclerosis cases for France alone. Know the word "to the moon" ? that's what it is atm.
Ofc no one can tell without reasonable doubt that it is due to vaccins or environment, you cannot find what you're not looking for, that goes for long terms side effects of vaccines too. Dont touch the business.

I can also say that this is only your opinion. Your tests leading to placebo effects is normal, dont know posology or anything about it, can only lead to biased results...

I still don't understand this particular grudge agaisnt homeopathy, in here its 90% reimbursed.
It still worked 20 years for my mother and the radios proves it. But since auto-immune disease is stronger now she has to take that levotyrox, no one ever said or thought that it would save her thyroïd.
Also works for animals that were not told haha. must be placebo again b)


If you've "seen the statistics" then link it to me. AFAIK virtually everybody gets a Hep B vaccine, so it's gonna be hard to find a good control group on which to do statistics.

Homeopathy is nonsense and you only need a Chem 101 class to prove it. But please, link me these homeopathic studies with reasonable sized samples and sound methodology.

Part of my job is measuring dose-response curves in both cells and animals, and part of my current project is investigating why a certain medicine has a different response at different doses and the mechanism behind it. I am very familiar with posology, but admittedly I've never heard it called by that name.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 23 2021 06:23am)
If you've "seen the statistics" then link it to me. AFAIK virtually everybody gets a Hep B vaccine, so it's gonna be hard to find a good control group on which to do statistics.

Homeopathy is nonsense and you only need a Chem 101 class to prove it. But please, link me these homeopathic studies with reasonable sized samples and sound methodology.

Part of my job is measuring dose-response curves in both cells and animals, and part of my current project is investigating why a certain medicine has a different response at different doses and the mechanism behind it. I am very familiar with posology, but admittedly I've never heard it called by that name.


I was talking about sclerosis cases that nobody can explain not hep B. Court is trubinal de nanterres its justice its not me saying it lol.

I know what your job is and why you cannot explain either how homeopathy works. I'd bet every study about it didnt not research how it worked, used the same (dumb) protocoles as for any others medics then said "not working".

Sorry but that is how we can detect and label dogmatic science, dont understand something ? Well that's because it doesnt work. But its working since long for so many people but you will always have to deny it.

I don't think there are any studies yet that are confirmed by the whole science community, eh doesnt mean it's all scam to me. maybe they exist in chinese though.

Not related but you bought doge for 36 cents yesterday and think homeopathy is a scam, quite funny tbh b)

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I was talking about sclerosis cases that nobody can explain not hep B. Court is trubinal de nanterres its justice its not me saying it lol.
I know what your job is and why you cannot explain either how homeopathy works. I'd bet every study about it didnt not research how it worked, used the same (dumb) protocoles as for any others medics then said "not working".
Sorry but that is how we can detect and label dogmatic science, dont understand something ? Well that's because it doesnt work. But its working since long for so many people but you will always have to deny it.
I don't think there are any studies yet that are confirmed by the whole science community, eh doesnt mean it's all scam to me. maybe they exist in chinese though.
Not related but you bought doge for 36 cents yesterday and think homeopathy is a scam, quite funny tbh b)


So what's your point with sclerosis cases? You were claiming a vaccine caused them weren't you?

There's a reason you haven't linked any studies that show homeopathy working. It's because they don't exist, and it's because homeopathy has been tested thousands of not millions of times, and the results always come back the same as just giving somebody sugar water. I find it hilarious that you reject pharma, but accept homeopathy. Homeopaths have the same monetary incentives as big pharma does. So maybe turn your critical thinking towards that as well.

I bought doge at 27, sold at 42, bought at 36, sold at 32. So overall I made money on it and now own no doge. So... yeah. Kinda telling about your mindset lol.
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So what's your point with sclerosis cases? You were claiming a vaccine caused them weren't you?


Read better. I said cases were exploding and a court of justice precisely conclued that hep B vaccine could get you sclerosis years later.
Again not me saying it just a court of justice.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 23 2021 06:35am)
There's a reason you haven't linked any studies that show homeopathy working. It's because they don't exist, and it's because homeopathy has been tested thousands of not millions of times, and the results always come back the same as just giving somebody sugar water. I find it hilarious that you reject pharma, but accept homeopathy. Homeopaths have the same monetary incentives as big pharma does. So maybe turn your critical thinking towards that as well..


You could do it billions of times, pointless if you dont know how to use it. you still don't get it and have to deny others millions of cases where it worked. hf

where have you seen that I reject pharma ? damn kid you're just making straw man arguments all the way. things aren't black or white but I know binary minds can't comprehend it..

you bought shit coins, and made poor trades with it (could have made x 10 or x5 reasonably) that alone tell me enough about your mindset too :lol:

let me know when you are tired to be constantly hitted by reality m8, wheter it is about health or crypto haha

to me both allopatic and chinese medicine have their cons/pros and are complementary, to you one is shit and the other is the graal. who is dogmatic ?

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Read better. I said cases were exploding and a court of justice precisely conclued that hep B vaccine could get you sclerosis years later.
Again not me saying it just a court of justice.

You could do it billions of times, pointless if you dont know how to use it. you still don't get it and have to deny others millions of cases where it worked. hf

where have you seen that I reject pharma ? damn kid you're just making straw man arguments all the way. things aren't black or white but I know binary minds can't comprehend it..

you bought shit coins, and made poor trades with it (could have made x 10 or x5 reasonably) that alone tell me enough about your mindset too :lol:

let me know when you are tired to be constantly hitted by reality m8, wheter it is about health or crypto haha

to me both allopatic and chinese medicine have their cons/pros and are complementary, to you one is shit and the other is the graal. who is dogmatic ?


So I made poor trades but made money? Lol okay.

Then link me the court justice saying it. Although it's worth pointing out that the opinion is only as good as the evidence its based on.

I could use your logic to say tap water cures cancer. There is no proof anything homeopathic works. You are refusing to account for the spontaneous remission rate of diseases.

Only one has an evidentiary basis and uses rational design for its treatments. I'll take that one every time. When a new form of medicine is discovered to be effective its mechanism is studied and new treatments are made based on it. There is no allopathic or western medicine, because anything that works will become western medicine.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 22 2021 10:09pm)
So I made poor trades but made money? Lol okay.

Then link me the court justice saying it. Although it's worth pointing out that the opinion is only as good as the evidence its based on.

I could use your logic to say tap water cures cancer. There is no proof anything homeopathic works. You are refusing to account for the spontaneous remission rate of diseases.

Only one has an evidentiary basis and uses rational design for its treatments. I'll take that one every time. When a new form of medicine is discovered to be effective its mechanism is studied and new treatments are made based on it. There is no allopathic or western medicine, because anything that works will become western medicine.


whats up with all the fake stuff though?

its in your face fake

SILENCE OF THE LAMBS ACTOR ANTHONY HOPKINS GETS THE HOAX VAX HE'S PAID TO ACT - WHAT A LOSER
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bOXvmtF6kpfR/
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Yes you did +30% with a shit coin that has pumped + 1000%. Not sure if dum or just bad at maths

Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 23 2021 07:09am)
So I made poor trades but made money? Lol okay.

Then link me the court justice saying it. Although it's worth pointing out that the opinion is only as good as the evidence its based on.

I could use your logic to say tap water cures cancer. There is no proof anything homeopathic works. You are refusing to account for the spontaneous remission rate of diseases.

Only one has an evidentiary basis and uses rational design for its treatments. I'll take that one every time. When a new form of medicine is discovered to be effective its mechanism is studied and new treatments are made based on it. There is no allopathic or western medicine, because anything that works will become western medicine.


Here we go again "link it to me" remember when you asked it for someone dying after a vaccine and then i linked you a doctor who died of it ? :rofl:

I told you the key words, do your own researches now if you don't trust me you lazy fatass.

"Spontaneous remission" aka the magic word when you guys don't understand something. Yeah .. it's magic. Except for the people who understand a bit better health in general.

Okay from now I guess I have to stop talking about these stuff with you, I mean why would I listen to you anyways ?

Is your life expectency higher than mine ? Hell no
Does your environment helps living longer ? Hell no
Does your food helps living longer ? Hell no

Does half your country voted for someone that said global warming was a chinese hoax ? Ah damn I got it, homeopathy is chinese !

You have money but the avg level of intelligence in your country is Nigeria/10



Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 23 2021 07:16am)
whats up with all the fake stuff though?

its in your face fake

SILENCE OF THE LAMBS ACTOR ANTHONY HOPKINS GETS THE HOAX VAX HE'S PAID TO ACT - WHAT A LOSER
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bOXvmtF6kpfR/


see ? -70 IQ from america can't write a single rational thing. There is clearly something wrong in your food guys xD

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