honestly, they cant and wont, touch Poland.



yea i noticed that as well but Russia will just ignore them, or not sell stuff to them. its how Putin operates. He holds grugdes and does tit for tat.



This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 15 2022 03:14pm

Russia could probably steam-roll Poland, if they went in with 2-3 million man. But, it isn't a serious concept:

1. Why would they ever do it?
2. No parts of Poland would accept it, Russia has no support in Poland whatsoever --> massive unrest
3. Why??
4. Nato-conflict
5. Even Russian allies would be pissed
6. Why??

This is all hypothetical, but anyway Baltics domination is 10000% more reasonable, for a multitude of factors.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Dec 15 2022 03:18pm

hi brother welcome back

It doesn't matter UK's reliance on Russian gas, what matters is you in the UK will feel the pain as those that were reliant on Russian gas now compete with you for the same limited gas, oil, other natural resources so you will end up paying higher prices.

And of course Russia will suffer economically as it loses all this revenue but idk if I'm an average person in Europe today having to dish out way more of my disposable income to heat my house or feed my family I take little comfort that this is also hurting Russia or that NATO is stronger as a result.

Russia vastly did the the same that what China is doing with social medias (minus active & direct corruption):
- Giving money to far right groups, trying to divide. Kompromat.
- Trolling/Botting up to the point to put people on the street.
- International mafia up to handle 40% global illegal transactions
- Corruption, lobbying at various levels to foreign elites (beyond far right groups, still Kompromat)
- /e I would add plain and simple violence (assassinations, mercery groups)

Russia never stopped to agress EU, Democracies are WAY easier & faster to destroy than building. It is way easier when nobody is criticizing you from the inside.
I am very sorry that your guys aren't even able to see it.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Dec 15 2022 03:38pm

There is no logic or intellgient thought to find in his posts, he is still defending vaccines and every trash the medias throws at his zombie beta mind.

the only solution would be to dissolve nato, but I don't see that happening yet

wait till you see what the frenchie post.

lol i wasnt asking IF we did it, i was asking WHEN we did it.



correct, so my point was when you do it as a main strategy it doesnt signal weakness. when you dont do it for a year, then start doing it, that change in strategy signals weakness.

and it didnt work out for us as taxpayers, it worked out for Haliburton, but not us. it was incredibly costly.

Absolutely true.
Be under no illusion. Many of them and a majority of them are willing to make a sacrifice to oppose tyranny. Many of them are educated enough to understand that appeasing tyrants doesn't work.

If NATO had appeased Putin with Ukraine, he'd be back in 2 years for Estonia. Back again for Moldova. Back again for Georgia.

That is completely reasonable to assume, so with that in mind. What strategy would you suggest, other than supporting Ukraine?



Exactly.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Dec 15 2022 03:29pm