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Dec 15 2022 02:20pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 15 2022 03:16pm)
No, the US didn't fail in its initial objective's to conquer Iraq by conventional means. Russia has.
The US and NATO were never really on the backfoot in the sense that Russia is in Ukraine.

We've seen this tactic before in Syria under this goon -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Surovikin

Loves targeting civilian infrastructure.


I know they didn't fail, but they targeted civilian infrastructure. So why is Russia targeting infrastructure a sign of failing meanwhile US targeting it is not? I'm just asking for some logical consistency?

But you're right that we faired much better in Iraq compared to Russians in Ukraine. I wonder if the two richest continents pooling resources and funneling tens of billions in weapons, training and funding into Ukraine has something to do with it.

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Dec 15 2022 02:27pm
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I know they didn't fail, but they targeted civilian infrastructure. So why is Russia targeting infrastructure a sign of failing meanwhile US targeting it is not? I'm just asking for some logical consistency?

But you're right that we faired much better in Iraq compared to Russians in Ukraine. I wonder if the two richest continents pooling resources and funneling tens of billions in weapons, training and funding into Ukraine has something to do with it.


When did we destroy infrastructure? in which phase of the war?
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Dec 15 2022 02:29pm
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I know they didn't fail, but they targeted civilian infrastructure. So why is Russia targeting infrastructure a sign of failing meanwhile US targeting it is not? I'm just asking for some logical consistency?

But you're right that we faired much better in Iraq compared to Russians in Ukraine. I wonder if the two richest continents pooling resources and funneling tens of billions in weapons, training and funding into Ukraine has something to do with it.


Its not a sign they are failing, its the strategy they are using now BECAUSE the conventional war has been lost, to this point.
It was lost the moment they were denied continuous access to Gostomel airfield.

Surovikin has taken control of the war in Ukraine. He has seen that it is not in the armies best interest to continue an offensive war, or to hold all land taken in the initial attacks.
He is playing to the armies strengths and capability. Mainly defensive and mainly artillery battles. Whilst attacking civilian infrastructure and hoping to break the will of Ukrainians to continue resisting.

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Dec 15 2022 02:31pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 15 2022 08:20pm)
I know they didn't fail, but they targeted civilian infrastructure. So why is Russia targeting infrastructure a sign of failing meanwhile US targeting it is not? I'm just asking for some logical consistency?

But you're right that we faired much better in Iraq compared to Russians in Ukraine. I wonder if the two richest continents pooling resources and funneling tens of billions in weapons, training and funding into Ukraine has something to do with it.


It has everything to do with it. Should anyone be ashamed about that?

Should we give concession to Russia because NATO and others have supported Ukraine? No.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Dec 15 2022 02:32pm
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 15 2022 11:27pm)
When did we destroy infrastructure? in which phase of the war?


Disgusting person you are, and you know it. "moral"-exceptionalism but in truth a filthy disgusting lier. Human sewage.

Electric generators of Mosul dam? Libyan infrastructure? Vietnam bomb-runs? Serbia?

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"The fact that lights went out across 70 percent of the country shows that NATO has its finger on the light switch now," said NATO spokesman Jamie Shea. "We can turn the power off whenever we need to and whenever we want to."


https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/world/europe/050499kosovo-nato.html


https://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/usa1203/4.5.htm

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/infrastructure-targeting-and-postwar-iraq

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 15 2022 09:31pm)
It has everything to do with it. Should anyone be ashamed about that?

Should we give concession to Russia because NATO and others have supported Ukraine? No.


It's clear that you're supporting this war. What a surprise ^^

You should stop crying about Russian attacks on infrastructure cuz this is what you can expect in a war.
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Quote (Djunior @ Dec 15 2022 08:38pm)
It's clear that you're supporting this war. What a surprise ^^

You should stop crying about Russian attacks on infrastructure cuz this is what you can expect in a war.


I support anybody's right to exist, to freedom and to live without tyranny. Simple rights that Vladimir Putin wishes to deny Ukrainians. Who according to him, don't exist.

Its clear that you're supporting dictators, illegal invasions and murdering civilians.
Choose your own hill to die on, even if yours appears to be on the wrong side of history.
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