yes i agree with , question is why russia dont do this? only massiv attaq ~ 30 drone. why not send 300 , or maybe 3k of drone in same time?

so there is a problem , isnt a cost question.

From my understanding, these are Iranian supplied drones. If I had to guess it probably has to do with how many they can actually source from Iran. I doubt Iran can produce and export them to Russia at a clip of tens of thousands a month. They probably have limited supply/production capability.

Russia's slow Iranian-made drones are easy to target. Less than 200 km/h vs 6 times more for regular missiles.

yeah was thinking of this too, but Iran said she dont make trade anymore with russia since the ukraine war...

This is a lie lol. It's just PR speech.

LOL

apart from the hilarious irony, it is you who misses, or rather misidentifies a non sequitur as "logic". just because it's obviously cheaper to fire cheap drones does NOT mean that you can't have run out of expensive options. it's the kind of non-argument that hacks make in order to avoid reasonable conclusions like "it's likely they are having procurement issues based on the fact they've been using their missiles considerably less frequently for similar targets".

this is not a cost question, this is a ratio question. and target question. that why russia use the two.

This post was edited by Pisior on Dec 15 2022 12:42pm

Completely agree. Thus i wrote a considerably important point in the post above but the thing will be dodged with caution.

I agree what your saying appears logical, but by the same virtue you can't prove they are not running low, other than to referencing some Russian state owned media outlet.

Or claiming they are saving precision missiles for high value targets, which by the way would clearly still exist today as they did earlier in the war.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Dec 15 2022 12:53pm

If you say someone is running low on something yet they continue to use it, month after month then it becomes meaningless to say. They are still using missiles to this day. They are still striking high value targets with these missiles to this day, Ukraine is a massive country, it would be near impossible to know and find all high value targets and hit them. I don't need to reference Russian news or whatever because I can just look at this reality and deduce.

When we invaded Iraq, we first pummeled them with Tomahawks then reduced their usage significantly, although there were still many targets I'm sure we'd still want to liquidate. The reduction of reliance on Tomahawks wasn't indicative that we were running out of them, it just meant that leaders thought other tactics are now more appropriate. Maybe because of cost, maybe because of other reasons.

But back to this scenario, using drones more than missiles =/= they are running low or out of them, that could be part of it but in reality they probably prefer to save money and deploy cheaper options that are comparably effective.

If you plan for a long war it's wise to conserve your high grade weapons stocks. It would be foolish for Russia to simply use all of their cruise missiles and be out. I don't think any modern military is that foolish in today's world.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Dec 15 2022 01:13pm