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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 7 2020 12:02am)
He's an adult male with no visually identifiable disabilities who walked up to them waving his camera around, its not like he's some infirm geriatric in a wheelchair.
Is there some magical cutoff age where you're allowed to riot with no consequence and police are unable to treat you the same as everyone else even if you act exactly the same as everyone else?
If a 110 lb 12 year old boy threw a brick at the police and they shot a pepper ball at him, would that be police brutality?

As I said, if police really wanted to tailor their enforcement to protect vulnerable people they should just start arresting any underage or overage or otherwise disabled people while pushing back the rest. Old guy would be better off if they had grabbed him and pulled him behind the police line and zip tied his hands and charged him with multiple crimes. Because there's plenty of people out on the streets during these riots who really shouldn't be there


You're not fooling anyone with your mischaracterizations. Look how white his hair is. The guy looks like a fucking ball sack ffs. How are you THIS fucking blind? He's not rioting and if you think that's rioting, that's pretty hilarious. Try again.

Quote (Ghot @ Jun 6 2020 11:58pm)
You need to get out more too.

/e 57 fellow officers walked out because of this. The old guy shouldn't even have been there. WTF over? At 75 years old he should have known to gtfo of the way when you have 20? cops in riot gear coming down the street.
Even if he was a liberal...he should have left the area.

You see the video where some ahole protester in Mexico, lit a cop on fire? Wtf is wrong with people.


I think I get out far more than you do Mr. Recluse. The old guy had every right to be there because he has the first amendment right to assemble. Now, it was clearly unwise to rush a police line like that but you should show more respect for your elders. Cuff him if he's breaking the law or guide him back to wear the other protestors are.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 7 2020 08:20am)
Man you are really desperate. Nobody is saying that he should be allowed to riot, and I know that you know that. You're making it clear that you aren't interested in having an honest conversation. Cultist.

We are saying that the proper force should be used to stop him from rioting. An unarmed 75 year old man requires very little force to subdue. If they had walked up to him, arrested him, and handcuffed him, and walked him over to a cruiser to finish the arrest, this wouldn't be an issue. The argument isn't that they should use zero force, but that they should use proper tactics for the situation, and "they were clearing a protest" doesn't stop them from having that duty.


Guy was just trying to return a police officer's helmet that he found on the ground too, from what I read. You can see a black helmet in his hands in the video.

The idea that he was "rushing the police line" is very KEKW and a big brain take.

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Quote (thundercock @ Jun 7 2020 02:20pm)
You're not fooling anyone with your mischaracterizations. Look how white his hair is. The guy looks like a fucking ball sack ffs. How are you THIS fucking blind? He's not rioting and if you think that's rioting, that's pretty hilarious. Try again.



I think I get out far more than you do Mr. Recluse. The old guy had every right to be there because he has the first amendment right to assemble. Now, it was clearly unwise to rush a police line like that but you should show more respect for your elders. Cuff him if he's breaking the law or guide him back to wear the other protestors are.



Dude the cop barely touched him.

Well, it doesn't matter if you don't understand what results we would have with an emasculated police force... cause YOU will have to live with those results, not me. ^^
YOU will be the one watching your wife get raped before your eyes and your family killed because some druggie needs money. If your lucky, maybe the soyboi police force you created will show up and take pics of what happened.

Inb4... but, but burglars don't do that. :/

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Dude the cop barely touched him.

Well, it doesn't matter if you don't understand what results we would have with an emasculated police force... cause YOU will have to live with those results, not me. ^^
YOU will be the one watching your wife get raped before your eyes and your family killed because some druggie needs money. If your lucky, maybe the soyboi police force you created will show up and take pics of what happened.

Inb4... but, but burglars don't do that. :/


I'm heavily armed so I doubt that would happen. But anyway, why is it that if we just ask cops to treat people with respect they are suddenly unable to carry out their duties? Do you get upset that a referee stops a boxing match after one of the boxers is knocked out?
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Quote (thundercock @ Jun 7 2020 04:22pm)
I'm heavily armed so I doubt that would happen. But anyway, why is it that if we just ask cops to treat people with respect they are suddenly unable to carry out their duties? Do you get upset that a referee stops a boxing match after one of the boxers is knocked out?




Well, no one can be expected to be inb4 everything. LOL


/e Criminals don't respect, respect bro. I'm sure they'd say oh sorry officer, here's my gun, I'll go peacefully.

Did you bring enough happy pills for everyone on PaRD?

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Quote (Ghot @ Jun 7 2020 01:26pm)
Well, no one can be expected to be inb4 everything. LOL


/e Criminals don't respect, respect bro. They'd say oh sorry officer, here's my gun, I'll go peacefully.

Did you bring enough happy pills for everyone on PaRD?


I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. What I'm saying is use appropriate force when necessary. If a guy is wrestling with cops, feel free to kick his ass until you can subdue him. If a guy pulls a gun on a cop, blow his fucking head off. If a guy is already in custody, you don't need to do anything else. He's no longer a threat. If an old man comes up to someone in full riot gear, there's barely a need to touch him. If a clearly marked journalist is doing their job, there's no need to fire a rubber bullet at their eye. Do you see the difference?
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Quote (thundercock @ Jun 7 2020 04:33pm)
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. What I'm saying is use appropriate force when necessary. If a guy is wrestling with cops, feel free to kick his ass until you can subdue him. If a guy pulls a gun on a cop, blow his fucking head off. If a guy is already in custody, you don't need to do anything else. He's no longer a threat. If an old man comes up to someone in full riot gear, there's barely a need to touch him. If a clearly marked journalist is doing their job, there's no need to fire a rubber bullet at their eye. Do you see the difference?



I understand your desire for politically correct police officers. We'd all like UBI and free college too. However, there's pipe dreams and then there is reality.

Where do you find these officers that can kill some crooks before they themselves get killed and then 2 minutes later be the epitome of understanding as well. Humans, even the good ones, don't exactly function that way. It takes TIME to switch modes, especially ones at opposite ends of the spectrum.

Then in a situation like we have right now, where mixed in with the peaceful protesters, you have the wackos too. It only take one wacko to kill you. How can you tell out of the 100 or so people that are screaming at you... which are the ones with the guns or knives or similar.

Xanadu is fictitious bro.


If the crooks don't KNOW FOR A FACT that they WILL be taken down tried, convicted and locked away, in a heartbeat, they will become a MUCH greater problem than they currently are.
There are 100's of thousands of videos out there, showing what a desperate criminal will do, but we can't post them on JSP.


For an analogy, think about say... Nam. Little kids coming running up to a soldier like they want to be held, and they have a live grenade with the pin already pulled.
After he died, the soldier realized that he should have been a bit less trusting.

Yes, I know police are not soldiers. It's just to point out that... you never know, until it's over, if you will die that day. This is what police officers must deal with. There's no accurate way to know, to what lengths that criminal will go.


/e YOU may not care if a given police officer survives to do his job tomorrow, and next week, etc. But I'll bet HE cares.


/ee Sure, we'd all like it if cops were all clones of Mel Gibson and Danny Glover. But dude... that was a movie.





/eee Here ya go... the important part starts at 4:00







Shyt can happen THAT fast during an arrest.
Yes... I know it's a movie but it's a good example. Of how fast the officer can go from being in charge of the situation, to being a.... corpse.



Iirc, Floyd was working as a bouncer? Granted he's not Gary Busey in a movie, but a bouncer can be a tough collar.

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Quote (Ghot @ Jun 7 2020 01:46pm)
I understand your desire for politically correct police officers. We'd all like UBI and free college too. However, there's pipe dreams and then there is reality.

Where do you find these officers that can kill some crooks before they themselves get killed and then 2 minutes later be the epitome of understanding as well. Humans, even the good ones, don't exactly function that way. It takes TIME to switch modes, especially ones at opposite ends of the spectrum.

Then in a situation like we have right now, where mixed in with the peaceful protesters, you have the wackos too. It only take one wacko to kill you. How can you tell out of the 100 or so people that are screaming at you... which are the ones with the guns or knives or similar.

Xanadu is fictitious bro.


If the crooks don't KNOW FOR A FACT that they WILL be taken down tried, convicted and locked away, in a heartbeat, they will become a MUCH greater problem than they currently are.
There are 100's of thousands of videos out there, showing what a desperate criminal will do, but we can't post them on JSP.


For an analogy, think about say... Nam. Little kids coming running up to a soldier like they want to be held, and they have a live grenade with the pin already pulled.
After he died, the soldier realized that he should have been a bit less trusting.

Yes, I know police are not soldiers. It's just to point out that... you never know, until it's over, if you will die that day. This is what police officers must deal with. There's no accurate way to know, to what lengths that criminal will go.


/e YOU may not care if a given police officer survives to do his job tomorrow, and next week, etc. But I'll bet HE cares.


/ee Sure, we'd all like it if cops were all clones of Mel Gibson and Danny Glover. But dude... that was a movie.


You keep bringing up these fictitious scenarios that don't really occur in America. Sure, maybe in Somalia, but not here. The fact of the matter is that policing isn't a particularly dangerous line of work compared to other professions. If the police are THAT scared about dying, then they should probably get a different job. Maybe a janitor? Oh wait, that job has a 6x higher death rate than police officers so that's WAY more dangerous.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 7 2020 03:10pm)
Guy was just trying to return a police officer's helmet that he found on the ground too, from what I read. You can see a black helmet in his hands in the video.

The idea that he was "rushing the police line" is very KEKW and a big brain take.


PaRD has, for the last few days, made me very hopeful for the future. Everybody except the dumbest right-wingers (Ghot, Goom, Void, EndlessCry) have been on one side and everybody who is within throwing distance of moderate has been on the other on basically every issue. Hell, even disembodied head, the most boring right-wing shotposter, has been on the same side.

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