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Jul 15 2018 06:05am
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jul 14 2018 08:20pm)
I think it's more likely that the Trump campaign and GOP assessed internal polling and made campaign changes based on that information rather than coordinate with Russian intelligence.

Most of what I've read points toward Clinton and the DNC running a bad and outdated campaign. The GOP ran a much more data-centric campaign and were better able to target swing districts and swing voters.

But we'll have to see. I've discredited a lot of Russian collusion type stuff that ended up being true. I honestly didn't think the DNC hackers were Russian sources. I was wrong.


I agree... still an interesting theory though.

Quote (excellence @ Jul 14 2018 09:47pm)
yep

that link was to one long ass twitter rage essay that should have been summed up in one tweet:

bill clinton told hillary and the dnc to campaign harder in the same spots drumpf was. because those were the actual battlegrounds not texas and arizona. data held by both groups supports this. and they told him no fuck off you, what do you know about winning elections


Literally no rage at all in the tweets, lol.
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Jul 15 2018 06:33am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-hadnt-thought-of-asking-putin-to-extradite-indicted-russian-agents-trump-says/2018/07/15/766a2d2a-8814-11e8-8b20-60521f27434e_story.html?utm_term=.172b1af6f540&noredirect=on
the actual state of CBS and the Washington Post.

no where in the article does it bother mentioning that the Russian constitution explicitly prohibits the extradition of Russian citizens under any circumstances, thereby making it a retarded question he'd have no reason to ask
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[URL=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-hadnt-thought-of-asking-putin-to-extradite-indicted-russian-agents-trump-says/2018/07/15/766a2d2a-8814-11e8-8b20-60521f27434e_story.html?utm_term=.172b1af6f540&noredirect=on]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-hadnt-thought-of-asking-putin-to-extradite-indicted-russian-agents-trump-says/2018/07/15/766a2d2a-8814-11e8-8b20-60521f27434e_story.html?utm_term=.172b1af6f540&noredirect=on[/URL]
the actual state of CBS and the Washington Post.

no where in the article does it bother mentioning that the Russian constitution explicitly prohibits the extradition of Russian citizens under any circumstances, thereby making it a retarded question he'd have no reason to ask


yeah, Putin respects all of our laws, so we should totally respect theirs and not even bother asking.

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Jul 15 2018 03:12pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 15 Jul 2018 13:33)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-hadnt-thought-of-asking-putin-to-extradite-indicted-russian-agents-trump-says/2018/07/15/766a2d2a-8814-11e8-8b20-60521f27434e_story.html?utm_term=.172b1af6f540&noredirect=on
the actual state of CBS and the Washington Post.

no where in the article does it bother mentioning that the Russian constitution explicitly prohibits the extradition of Russian citizens under any circumstances, thereby making it a retarded question he'd have no reason to ask


how to spin an admission that he didn't even CONSIDER trying to hold russia responsible into an informed decision to respect russian law and let the whole thing slide...
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Jul 16 2018 05:47am
kind of a minor point here on mueller's indictments but;
https://archive.fo/hVyT4

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@GUCCIFER_2 Got anything on the Wasserman Schultz primary?
12:50 PM - 15 Aug 2016


the unnamed congressional candidate mentioned in the indictment asking Guccifer 2.0 for information on his opponent on August 15th was Tim Canova, who ran against Debbie Wasserman Schulz in the democratic primaries. Daniel Deriso is one of his 'field team'
he was already wrapped up in the DNC emails fallout from accusations that the emails revealed DWS rigging her own election against him:

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The Florida Democratic party initially refused access to its voter database to the Canova campaign.[18] Following complaints by the Florida Progressive Democratic Caucus and the Canova campaign, the Florida Democratic party leadership, in March 2016, reversed its position. However, Florida Democratic Party executive director Scott Arceneaux specified that the exception would only apply to the contest between Canova and Wasserman Schultz, because of "the truly unique factors." Canova commented, "I hate to be critical at a moment when I am thankful, but I think that is bad policy."[19]
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After Wikileaks released hacked Democratic National Committee emails in July 2016, Canova stated that he had searched their database and found his name mentioned in about 70 emails.[27] On August 8, 2016, Canova’s campaign announced that they were filing a complaint with the Federal Election Commission, accusing Wasserman Schultz of "us[ing] her position with the DNC and the resources of the DNC to improperly benefit her congressional campaign."


Essentially, Florida democrats deny primary challengers to DNC resources as a matter of policy, but grant them to incumbents. They do this for all incumbents in Florida, but DWS being part of the DNC leadership meant she had control over the rule, so she was shutting out her own challengers.
That lawsuit didn't go anywhere afaik, but this one did:

http://ballot-access.org/2018/05/14/tim-canova-wins-lawsuit-over-early-destruction-of-2016-florida-u-s-house-primary-ballots/
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On August 30, 2016, Florida held its congressional-state office primaries. One of the closer contests was the race between incumbent Democratic congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz and professor Tim Canova in the 23rd district, which is mostly in Broward County. The results were: Wasserman Schultz 28,809; Canova 21,907.

Canova suspected that the results were inaccurate. On October 19, 2017, he filed a public records request to see the ballots. Federal law says election officials must retain ballots until 22 months after any federal primary or election. But after Canova filed his lawsuit, Broward County election officials disposed of all the 2016 primary ballots. Canova sued. On May 11, 2018, the state trial court ruled that the destruction of the ballots was unlawful, as was the failure of the county to produce the ballots so that Canova could inspect them. Here is the 9-page opinion in Canova v Snipes, Broward Co. Circuit Court, CACE17-010904.

Ironically, earlier this year, Canova withdrew from the Democratic primary for the same seat this year, and switched to being an independent candidate. Part of his motivation was despair that he could get a fair vote-counting process in this year’s Democratic primary. If he had won the case earlier, he might have remained in the 2018 primary. Thanks to Rick Hasen for the link.
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There is even, the Observer has learned, an ongoing channel of communication between them. A source familiar with the FBI investigation revealed that the commissioner and her deputy spent last week with law enforcement agencies in the US including the FBI. And Denham’s deputy, James Dipple-Johnstone, confirmed to the Observer that “some of the systems linked to the investigation were accessed from IP addresses that resolve to Russia and other areas of the CIS [Commonwealth of Independent States]”.

It was a recent discovery, he said, but an explosive one, potential evidence of a direct link between the company at the heart of the Trump campaign – and files holding information of 220 million US voters – and the Russian government’s disinformation campaign.


per The Guardian.

#noCollusion
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Jul 16 2018 09:55am
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per The Guardian.

#noCollusion




No link, never happened.

Btw, with today's tech, and IP can be made to look like it's from anywhere, and that's just the tech that's easily available to everyone.
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Jul 16 2018 10:46am
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 16 2018 11:55am)
No link, never happened.

Btw, with today's tech, and IP can be made to look like it's from anywhere, and that's just the tech that's easily available to everyone.


lol
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Jul 16 2018 11:29am
Russiagate been gathering steam for 1 year and 4 months. Oh Lawwdy.
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Jul 16 2018 11:36am
Quote (Horford @ Jul 16 2018 10:46am)
lol


i love when he does that. asks for source, then just calls it fake or claims its some sort of high tech tomfoolery.

one time i had to post a hyperlink to an article at least 8 times in a row before he finally clicked it after saying "well we dont have the facts yet" post after post. then he had the audacity to make some bland rant about how we as a society don't wait for the facts enough in an attempt to turn his mental ineptitude back on me. i've seen screws stripped all the way out that are less stubborn than that doddering old fool.
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