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Dec 12 2022 01:20pm
Quote (Djunior @ Dec 12 2022 07:17pm)
An estimated 100K - 120K Ukrainian soldiers are dead. That means we can add another 300K wounded and maimed soldiers. (Not counting the civilians that died).

Ukraine cannot sustain these kind of losses. Why do you think Zelensky is talking about a new peace plan?


When this is what Russia can bring you, how dare Ukraine seek to join the EU or NATO.

What a brilliant legacy for this centuries great dictator.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Dec 12 2022 01:20pm
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 12 2022 08:12pm)
What are you talking about forbidden?

My point is very simple. Putin expected a swift victory because of bad intelligence.
What he got, is operation meatgrinder.


bro, do you really think Putin is the only guy to reflect?? he got a ton of advisor ect...
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Dec 12 2022 01:33pm
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When this is what Russia can bring you, how dare Ukraine seek to join the EU or NATO.

What a brilliant legacy for this centuries great dictator.


Actually, this could've been avoided by negotiations exactly one year ago, remember?

Inb4 nooo we don't negotiate with Russia reeeee
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Dec 12 2022 01:39pm
Quote (Djunior @ Dec 12 2022 11:33am)
Actually, this could've been avoided by negotiations exactly one year ago, remember?

Inb4 nooo we don't negotiate with Russia reeeee


still can't figure out that countries have the right to join NATO or not and still not get their civilians bombed over it.
the rest is just BS
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Dec 12 2022 01:42pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 12 2022 08:39pm)
still can't figure out that countries have the right to join NATO or not and still not get their civilians bombed over it.
the rest is just BS


Your entire post is BS

Go back to NATO summit 2008 and start from there, lol
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 12 2022 08:39pm)
still can't figure out that countries have the right to join NATO or not and still not get their civilians bombed over it.
the rest is just BS


problem is somtimes their government is Pro russia, somtimes pro occidental, join NATO is not for 1 years...
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Dec 12 2022 01:46pm
Quote (Pisior @ Dec 12 2022 07:26pm)
bro, do you really think Putin is the only guy to reflect?? he got a ton of advisor ect...


Only the ones that say yes to him. That's how you get bad intel.

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Dec 12 2022 01:48pm
Quote (Djunior @ Dec 12 2022 07:33pm)
Actually, this could've been avoided by negotiations exactly one year ago, remember?

Inb4 nooo we don't negotiate with Russia reeeee


We can all see the legacy Putin has built for himself. Regardless of how you vindicate and rationalize an oppressive dictators behavior.

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still can't figure out that countries have the right to join NATO or not and still not get their civilians bombed over it.
the rest is just BS


Bro just to be fair, anyone can join NATO, it's just that there will be consequences for some. As much as I agree with your view, I don't think it is as simple as that.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Dec 12 2022 08:48pm)
Bro just to be fair, anyone can join NATO, it's just that there will be consequences for some. As much as I agree with your view, I don't think it is as simple as that.


That's right, it's called geopolitics. In the past Western leaders understood that but that's no longer the case.


Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 12 2022 08:48pm)
We can all see the legacy Putin has built for himself. Regardless of how you vindicate and rationalize an oppressive dictators behavior.


Show me where I vindicate and rationalize Putin.

Must be hard for you to accept that negotiations are crucial when dealing with countries like Russia (or China)

This post was edited by Djunior on Dec 12 2022 02:07pm
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