for this.

The second one is an attention whore who is "siding" with the regime in front of cemra but the police is arresting her too just because she's talking to journalists.
Yes "conservatives" like you are saying.. These people simply deserve to live under this kind of regime, end of story. But on another planet far, far, away in another galaxy, if possible.

Why do you admire NATO so much?

Dogpiling on a country like Russia, dumbest policy ever.

I didnt say I admire nato?

Conservatives didn't say they admire Russia/Putin either.

merica's conservatives adore​ Vladimir Putin’s far-right Christian Nationalism – more than freedom, nothing new. We also have the same idiots here in EU.

I for one admire America, and want what's in her best interests.
Its funny how the jingoist morons usually wind up doing what, in the long term, helps the enemies they use as a bludgeon to accuse others of treason

What you think we should have stayed out of Afghanistan? What are you, a Taliban lover? Oops just got fast forwarded twenty years and the Taliban are celebrating their now unified nation under Taliban rule, carrying American weapons and driving American armor and even flying (oh so briefly) an American helicopter

well you've certainly been part of team orc throughout this thread

why does it bother you that some people in a country want the right to determine their own future without the authoritarian shithole next door stepping in to decide their fate?

Same here and I genuinely think this Ukraine conflict is a terrible miscalculation.


Bombing the crap out of Al-Qaida training camps and Bin Laden hideouts all sounded perfectly fine to me, that whole nation-building fantasy is where Afghanistan went wrong.

Fun fact btw, the users that were non stop shitting on the US for Iraq/Afghanistan have made a sudden 180 and are now the loudest pro-war voices when it comes to Russia/Ukraine.

When you remind them the only thing they come up with is calling that "whataboutisms"

This post was edited by Djunior on Dec 10 2022 01:45pm

I've said from the start that pushing for Ukraine's NATO / EU membership is a bad idea. Russia was never going to accept that. The West wouldn't either if it was the other way around, anyone with a brain understands that.

And yes it bothers me because we all pay the price of this madness. Here's an old quote from this topic, March 19 2022. There you go